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Title: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Chris on April 26, 2015, 09:26:46 AM
So, I am really enjoying this game - however is still has some bugs.

While I was playing the stage where you escape the castle through the bridge, I suddenly noticed Etoile couldn't attack because he had no lance (and it didn't break earlier) and then I realize that most of my characters had their weapons swapped: the healer equipped with/ able to fire a crossbow, Sabrina had and axe instead of her sword etc.

That's all :) Hope this gets fixed.

Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Senteria on April 27, 2015, 07:54:41 AM
So, I am really enjoying this game - however is still has some bugs.

While I was playing the stage where you escape the castle through the bridge, I suddenly noticed Etoile couldn't attack because he had no lance (and it didn't break earlier) and then I realize that most of my characters had their weapons swapped: the healer equipped with/ able to fire a crossbow, Sabrina had and axe instead of her sword etc.

That's all :) Hope this gets fixed.

I forgot to report this. Indeed often my characters get their equipment swapped or rather copied? I don't know. There is no way some chars should be able to equip some items but then somehow it seems they copied the main character. Like my Meridan could attack with a steel sword.

Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: kevin on April 30, 2015, 08:12:08 PM
This has happened to me numerous times.  Very annoying.  I just started a new game tonight, in fact, and when I got to the first merchant, I selected "Manage Items" and found that Emma and the axe-wielder were both equipped with lances, and there gear was nowhere to be found!  The first log attached here is from right when I noticed it, while still in the merchant screen.  The second is from the start of the next fight, when the equipment bug is still in effect.  I guess I'll be going back to an earlier save point... a save anywhere, anytime function, at least during battles, would be enormously appreciated.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: CraigStern on April 30, 2015, 08:17:55 PM
Ugh. I spent literally hours on end today trying to reproduce this bug, to no avail. If you happen to notice anything--anything at all--that coincides with the swapping, let me know. I am really eager to get this fixed!
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: kevin on May 01, 2015, 06:08:06 AM
Well, here's a couple screenshots.  Can I send you my save game files somehow?
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: CraigStern on May 01, 2015, 09:00:26 AM
It wouldn't help--I already know what the game's code looks like after it happens. The thing I'm trying to figure out is what precedes the swap. It has to be something causing it!

Did you notice the swap before you purchased anything on the merchant screen--or had you done some things there beforehand? Did any of your characters die during the caravan battle?
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: kevin on May 01, 2015, 05:32:45 PM
No one died in the previous battle, and I don't remember whether I had purchased anything yet.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  It does seem that the issue occurs between battles.  Its happened to me other times, but I don't think I've ever noticed it in the middle of a battle.  Usually I notice it when I'm in the pre-battle item management screen.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: CraigStern on May 02, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
Okay! I think I might have finally fixed this in version 1.028; try updating and see if it stops happening.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: ifulmen on May 03, 2015, 11:27:47 AM
Last update was yesterday. I have played two missions today. Then I started the third (spearman duel), unfortunately my dude had only two wrenches (this is all my engineer had before).

Next mission (4th today) I have 2 Gunther dudes in Reserve. Cannot see their descriptions, all I know they are lvl 14 Bandits. They also do not appear in the list of characters in item management.

I have attached all the stuff so.... gl hf
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Elm on May 03, 2015, 12:02:59 PM
I had this happen too - after the mission where you rescue the winged demon-y person from the bandit vault. Mission was successful, no losses on my side.

My lancer person's lance and my bandit's axes all disappeared, replaced with swords that they couldn't use, and a bunch of leather armor, and many other characters' inventories were randomly swapped around. Since it makes two key melee characters essentially worthless for the next several missions (until you see a merchant again) this is pretty nearly a game-over bug.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: JaceButt on May 03, 2015, 09:17:33 PM
I had a very similar bug, any of my characters that picked up apples in the apple mission lost their weapons and equipment after the mission finished. This wouldn't have been so bad except that it was 5 of my characters, many of the melee ones too.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: ifulmen on May 04, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
whoohoo, reading this I feel super lucky having lost just few items I could buy later and the spearman and having made it to the final mission...
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Jolima on May 04, 2015, 12:50:27 PM
I had the same problem as well in 1.028. I first noticed it while shopping after the apple mission - some equipment sets had been duplicated onto other characters. I bought replacements for whatever was missing and played through the next mission. On the mission after, the main lizard had gotten a copy of Madeleine's equipment while the others two must both have gotten theirs from some mages since one only had bandages and the other had bandages plus a focus pill.

I still have saves from the previous two missions and just tried reloading from the previous mission and agreeing to their terms to basically skip it.

If I just do that immediately, I get the exact same result. If I first go in and remove something from Madeleine's equipment though, the equipment seem to get mixed up again. Now the main lizard started with just the bandages (maybe what he's supposed to start with?) and immediately got his mace while one of the others still had bandages plus pills and the other got a copy of the engineer's wrench.

Aaand then I managed to get that save overwritten so I can't attach it for you.  :(

I'll restart from the apple mission later to see if it happens again.

edit: Ok something seems off about dropping items on the preparation screen. It seems to unequip the item that now takes the place that the dropped item used to be in, but also mess things up more than that somehow. Equiping or unequiping items for that character sometimes doesn't work anymore. Or maybe really equips some other item?

I also noticed that if you save, drop an item and then reload the save the item remains dropped, so it's modifying the save file even if you don't save again afterwards. I once noticed that the portrait order had changed in the game after reloading as well. I think some equipment had been copied at that time as well.

Well, I hope I gave you some leads to pursue at least. :)
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Sereb on May 05, 2015, 05:39:17 PM
I once noticed that the portrait order had changed in the game after reloading as well. I think some equipment had been copied at that time as well.

This is exactly what I am noticed as well. It also seems to have something to do with restarting the battle. I noticed it once before but had just started the game and thought maybe the weapons broke and I didn't notice. This time however, all of my Bandits throwing axes were gone (after restarting the battle in the tavern with the band of thieves) so I went to investigate and I noticed my Golem had changed spots and on of my heroes had the propeller item that was equipped on him (she had it equipped magically).

Thinking back, I had one battle that started and somehow my Mantis Rider had a crossbow equipped for the whole match too. I assume this was due to some item swapping seeing as he couldn't have equipped it otherwise and could not again after.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Jolima on May 06, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
Here's a reproducible way to cause the problem:

1. Load the attached save.
2. Go to manage inventory, open Emma's inventory and drop her Steel Sword.
3. Notice that her shield becomes unequipped.
4. Close inventory and start the battle.
5. Surrender immediately.
6. Go to manage inventory again and notice that a lot of the equipment has been swapped around and all of the characters are in reverse order.

I think Emma swapped with Farasat and Madeleine swapped with Gavrielle while the others kept their own equipment.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: CraigStern on May 07, 2015, 12:06:45 PM
Thanks for the detailed reports and saved game files, guys! I'm going to take another crack at fixing this tonight. :)
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Sereb on May 07, 2015, 04:28:51 PM
Another thing you could try to trigger it is start a map, replace the default members on the field with some reserve guys then save. Start the battle then surrender and try again. I believe this is when I saw both the portrait swapping and mixing/losing of items. Even closing the game and reloading the save file did not work, it somehow saved with the items missing.

Here you can see a screenshot of my Photokineticist wielding a steel sword like a boss -  :o

If you want my save file let me know.

(http://i.imgur.com/1AZDK4g.png)
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: ifulmen on May 10, 2015, 05:16:42 AM
Craig, why did you forbid to drop the incompatible inventory? We could at least drop and redistribute it earlier, but now it is not even possible to work around the bug.
Someone should really stop messing up with the ids of characters and items.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Inspyrd on May 15, 2015, 04:46:01 AM
First off Telegraph Tatics, awesome achievement Mr Stern!. I'm loving it, Thank you sir.

So my version patched to 1.03 yesterday. I continued playing an old 1.029 save where I had been having these equipment swapping, duping and disappearing issues which lead me to suspect the character/eqipment database was being corrupted some how. As I continued playing in ver 1.03 the issues were still appearing to the point where it became impossible to continue at the entance to the mines. Your patch notes suggested this problem had been solved so decided to ditch the old save and start fresh. I've started a new campaign and I've hit my first issue at Gunthers first battle, after succeeding to rescue the flying creature from prision without losing any of my party. Importantly however regarding a potential database corruption, before successfully completing the mission I had quit and restarted the client because I got a party member killed because of a silly mistake and wanted to restart the level. so I quit by ALT+TABing and right clicking 'close window' on the application icon in the taskbar (ie. not following the correct process of quitting by clicking options/quit game)

I had no problems on the 2nd attempt at the rescue mission regarding swapping characters, equipment etc but as I had all 8 characters on the field I didn't have to swap any characters out of the reserve list (because there were no reserve charaters at that time.) on Gunthers following level I had the new flying character, and so now one in reserve, but when I tried to swap it into the party the game refused to let me put it in any deployment slot with an accompaning 'duh duh' sound. I could however move and arrange the members of the party already deployed in their field positions

I'm not sure if you can reproduce this but if you can, to my thinking, maybe shutting down the app in mid game incorrectly is somehow corrupting your database. Quitting out correctly and restarting the client didn't fix the problem of swapping characters. The only way I found to fix it was a computer restart which I find peculiar unless you are somehow storing the database in a memory location and it is maintained even after the game is closed and restarted.

I really love the potential of this game but this equipment bug becomes a proper gamebreaker as the number of characters that joins your party increases and charater inventory management becomes increasingly important. Hopefully you did solve it in 1.3 and this is an unrelated other bug but I suspect it is related and wanted to get this report in. I'll keep playing and let you know if my equipment swapping, duping and disappearing starts happening in later in this version 1.03 run through. Right now I suspect it will start happening because this was how the problems started for me in version 1.029. If you don't hear from me in the next day or two about this bug escalating into the equipment swapping, duping and disappearing then maybe move this bug report elsewhere. I hope you manage to solve it :)

As a side note - at times there is no easy way to quit the game, ie from the deployment screen (apart from first deploying troops clicking through dialogue hitting ESC a couple of times clicking options, then clicking quit. The tendency for a player to quit by ALT+F4 or by ALT+TABing and killing the client is likely quite high. I hope some of this might be helpful for you Craig. Good luck bug fixing and once again thank you for this potentially excellent game :)
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Inspyrd on May 15, 2015, 05:16:46 PM
ok the next weird thing has occured with character selection, this time a picture is attached with the log. This is gunthers level and I have just start playing again after restarting the Computer to fix the bug that was preventing me moving Meridian into the party. you can clearly see meridian now deployed on the field but notice that she doesn't appear in the line you drag equipment to. Madilane is listed both in the reserve list and the deployed list, Meridian is not available at all to drop equipment onto.
Title: Re: Characters weapons swapped
Post by: Inspyrd on May 15, 2015, 06:05:49 PM
Apologies if I appear to be hijacking this thread with a list of unrelated bugs but i started here and it's a sequence of events might potentially leading to the bug in the title so...

having deployed despite the bug I screwed up and restarted the the level again this time using the proper quit function. The 2nd attempt I beat gunther and then in the dialogue cutscene that normaly should appear there was just a background but no characters or text. A click or two moved past the cutscene and onto the next level....see attached pic and logs

I think I'm gonna restart the campaign entirely again this time with no restarts or quiting any of the levels and see if it keeps happening....