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Title: Hero's Gender
Post by: SmartyPants on March 10, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
CraigStern designed the Hero as a genderless character. All the dialogue based around this Hero allows players to treat this character as either male or female.
I nocticed some people refered to the Hero as a "he" or "him", while others refered to the Hero as "she" or "her".  When you played the first two Telepath games, what gender did you see the Hero as?
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Ertxiem on March 10, 2010, 06:28:42 PM
I saw the Main as male. Perhaps because I'm a male too.
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Post by: hellboy222 on March 11, 2010, 05:46:59 AM
Yeah I saw the main as male because I'm a dude too.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: SmartyPants on March 11, 2010, 02:14:40 PM
In the first game, I thought the character was a chick based on what she was wearing.

In the second game, I thought the character was a dude, because I am a dude.
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Post by: Zackirus on March 11, 2010, 02:35:59 PM
I always thought the character was a guy because he looked more like a boy than a girl.
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Post by: torugo on March 11, 2010, 04:02:58 PM
same deal i thought he was a boy
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Post by: cyso on March 11, 2010, 07:04:46 PM
In the first one, the main tells a drunk guard:
"Any *cough* girl..."
This seems to imply the main is a guy.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: CraigStern on March 13, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
Well, the coughing implies that something in the sentence isn't true: is it the "girl," or is it the "any"? ;)
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Post by: Zackirus on March 13, 2010, 06:10:27 PM
Well, the coughing implies that something in the sentence isn't true: is it the "girl," or is it the "any"? ;)

Dang it craig stop messing with our minds ;D. Just tell us weither the main for chapter one and two was a girl or a guy
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: KZ on March 14, 2010, 03:13:35 PM
I remember that phrase coming up before and being applied to all genders- and depending on how you precieve the Main to be (guy/girl), the ensuing dialogue can be quite hilarious to read.
I also see the Main as a guy due to my gender, though I wouldn't mind playing as a female- 'tis the story that matters for me.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Steel Ersatz Man on March 28, 2010, 09:18:48 AM
It's a guy. He acts like a guy. Also, in telepath rpg 2, you act like a boy in all your responses and Gamblin' Jack calls you kid. And, he's the kinda guy who wouldn't be friends with a girl. And, the character's got fairly short hair.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: KZ on March 28, 2010, 10:25:30 AM
Well, Ersatz Man, to you the Main can be a guy, but, apparently, female members of the forums said (back in the day), that they certainly have no trouble identifying the Main as a girl. Gamblin' Jack's responses fit his character, who may easily not take a roughly 17 year old seriously or see him/her as a man or woman, yet. Hence the responses. About hair-do, well, that's really not much- a lot of women these days have short hair. Still, I guess in your fashion you have answered the question posed in the thead- you see the Main as a guy.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: MikeW781 on March 28, 2010, 12:27:36 PM
how come the hero can tell Griffin he is trying to score with Rahel if he is gender neutral
I am mostly pointing this out as a flaw-I really don't want a gay (literally) answer
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Steel Ersatz Man on March 28, 2010, 12:28:22 PM
Were talking about the hero of Telepath rpg's 1 and 2.
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Post by: Barzul on March 28, 2010, 03:52:21 PM
Though there could be another level of the story, Duvalier choosing a love interest between Rahel and a male teammate, like Griffin or the new spearman.  :D

I wonder how the Cult would take that...  :o
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: KZ on March 28, 2010, 04:07:22 PM
That certainly would be an unexpected twist! :) But that could be too much extra to add on.


Well, given that they are religious zealots, chances are they'll be conservative in many different ways, I suspect!
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Presentiment on March 28, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
Methinks the hero is a transvestite. 
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: GOD on June 08, 2010, 11:59:42 AM
Methinks the hero is a transvestite. 
Hellz to the yes
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Post by: cx on June 08, 2010, 12:09:27 PM
/me thinks Hero is male

Brother at Academy states so and also Guy et co.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Bromtaghon on June 08, 2010, 04:03:27 PM
Nope, all the dialogue does not imply the Hero to be of either gender.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: cx on June 09, 2010, 11:40:40 AM
Nope, all the dialogue does not imply the Hero to be of either gender.

Still I say Hero is male since I really doubt Shadowlings would have taken female to their army.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Barzul on June 09, 2010, 01:15:06 PM
It actually works the other way. The shadowlings see no distinctions in humans, they are all equally inferior. So why would it matter that the main could be female?
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: SmartyPants on June 10, 2010, 08:11:34 AM
Still I say Hero is male since I really doubt Shadowlings would have taken female to their army.
Anya (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Anya) and Helena (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Helena) were put on the Hero's team, while the Hero's team is part of the Shadowling Empire's Military.

It actually works the other way. The shadowlings see no distinctions in humans, they are all equally inferior. So why would it matter that the main could be female?
I could see shadowlings having a difficult time distinguishing genders, since Malis thought Set was half-shadowling.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: cx on June 10, 2010, 10:49:51 AM
Anya (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Anya) and Helena (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Helena) were put on the Hero's team, while the Hero's team is part of the Shadowling Empire's Military.

by hero's request and not exactly put, they just joined during missions.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: SmartyPants on June 10, 2010, 10:59:51 AM
Anya (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Anya) and Helena (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Helena) were put on the Hero's team, while the Hero's team is part of the Shadowling Empire's Military.
by hero's request and not exactly put, they just joined during missions.
So you admit that the Shadowling Empire allowed females to join the military, so therefore it is possible for the Main to be female.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Duskling on June 10, 2010, 04:24:58 PM
There isn't much to draw information from. Although I'd say the hero is male, I mean, there are very few to no feminine choices in conversation, I' am wrong of course, seeing as how some women would sometimes act as men would, but that's not the case here, is it?
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Barzul on June 10, 2010, 06:11:10 PM
Are there many overly masculine responses? I think its quite balanced.
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Post by: Duskling on June 10, 2010, 06:19:27 PM
That may be the case, but there aren't any of the generic "gentel" feminine lines for the Hero.
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Post by: DarkGhostMatt on June 23, 2010, 02:10:19 PM
Although most people on this poll comment think that the Hero is a male, I think that it is a female. The first chapter dropped quite a few hints (Clothing, talking, et cetera), and I don't see anything wrong in TRPG2 about the hero being female.
Title: Hero's Gender
Post by: Bromtaghon on June 23, 2010, 02:21:24 PM
Welcome to the forums, DarkGhostMatt!
Read the rules, use proper grammar and punctuation, play the games, share your ideas and enjoy your stay!
The Hero can be either.  I saw it as a male because I'm male (I think).  As for the clothing, you can't see it very well.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: KZ on June 24, 2010, 11:36:23 AM
Well, either way the hero is "gender-selective", so to speak, and any internal between-human dialogue doesn't really point much to either- both a male and a female with such a character are plausible. Plus, as mentioned above, shadowlings simply view humans as "fleshlings", food, more or less, I doubt they'd care for their gender- in case of military, they're just interested in the Psy abilities and usefulness to the Queen (which sort of does bring the argument to an end- the Shadowlings revere a female, they only discriminate against Spriggats; Lola didn't seem in any way like an oppressed woman, and even if the Shadowling society is militaristic, think of the Amazons, so I think the society actually isn't really gender discriminating).
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Nameless on July 16, 2010, 07:33:23 AM
Well after playing the game and TPRPG Servants of God, I could conclude that the charecter is a Male because If you notice the similarities of Nameless one and the Hero in #2, you may become suspicious of his Identity. And with the explanation of the game on the game "The third Chapter in the Telepath RPG series seems Irrelevant to the others in the series... or does It!" I came to the assumption it may be possible for the character Nameless One to be the Same as the Hero Character in Telepath RPG 2, also considering some of the little background knowledge that Nameless One gives us about his past. Please do tell me if I may be onto Anything.
                               - Nameless
 
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Bromtaghon on July 16, 2010, 02:02:05 PM
I'm pretty sure the Nameless One's gender has never been confirmed either, has it?
For more information, see the Nameless One thread that's probably floating around TSoG somewhere.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Nameless on July 17, 2010, 11:15:55 AM
I've made another post on this in TSoG to compare both without going in between the posts.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: KZ on July 22, 2010, 05:07:24 AM
I'm pretty sure that it (Nameless One's gender) has been positively identified as male (e.g. you don't refer to any woman, old or otherwise as "old codger", etc).

But let's bring this back on topic: when you played through TRPG 1 and 2, did you think of the Main as a "he" or as a "she" and why? (Forget not that the Main is intentionally "genderless", so the player adds on the gender as an extra during the play-through.)
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Barzul on July 22, 2010, 09:06:31 AM
I'm one of the 3 people who voted for female. I played TRPG 1 first and that avatar just seems far more female than male to me.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Kindle on July 23, 2010, 01:42:06 AM
Make that four. I think the hero looks feminine. Plus, it's more interesting, to me anyway, to think of the hero as female.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: KZ on July 24, 2010, 07:10:19 AM
Barzul, Kindle- have you tried playing through TRPG2 one more time and trying to imagine the Main as a male? If you did, was the playing experience any different, anything about the actions, the dialogues, etc? Or even if you didn't, any interestsing points to make about that?

Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Idozen Cair on December 16, 2010, 06:58:36 AM
how come the hero can tell Griffin he is trying to score with Rahel if he is gender neutral
I am mostly pointing this out as a flaw-I really don't want a gay (literally) answer
It's stated at the beginning that your character is a male.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: ArtDrake on December 16, 2010, 08:51:17 AM
The Hero of TRPG:SoG is male, yes, but this is a TRPG2 conversation.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: bugfartboy on December 16, 2010, 10:39:17 PM
Dialouge in TRPG2 is carefully worded to avoid giving the Hero a gender. I believe that the Hero was intended to remain genderless for a purpose.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Idozen Cair on December 17, 2010, 01:02:48 AM
someone asked about SoG
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: ArtDrake on December 17, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
I understand, but the moment is over now.
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Post by: HeadShot on December 20, 2010, 08:37:21 PM
I considered the hero to be a male in TRPG2. Although the hero looks like a female in TRPG1, I still called the hero a male.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Reiji on January 19, 2011, 12:57:37 PM
i view the main char as a male simply because i am a mele and the char is designed to be gender neutral so that you can view the char as yourself in this situation and sequence of events right, so actualy i never viewed it specificaly as a male but me in that situation when im talking :-*
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: MikeW781 on February 05, 2011, 11:22:48 AM
Please use proper grammar and standard english conventions. We aren't grammar nazis or anything, missing a capital here and there is no big deal, but that was really hard to understand.
Title: Re: Hero's Gender
Post by: Duskling on February 05, 2011, 03:31:30 PM
Indeed, we are used to good grammar around here, so, if you please, use proper grammar and punctuation whenever possible.