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Title: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 18, 2010, 11:37:36 AM
Do most combatants who fight in the Grand Tournament of Ravinale fight as free men like the Hero or do they fight as slaves like the Hero's team?
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: torugo on April 19, 2010, 07:06:55 PM
well the mercenarys enter on there own will since they also buy slaves from the market
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 21, 2010, 04:40:36 PM
I noticed that many the teams are lead by free men.  There are several Mechanic teams who fight alongside their purchased spirits, bugs, and golems.  Members of the Ravinale Guard also fight alongside less equipped slaves.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: torugo on April 24, 2010, 08:23:41 AM
the spiggurats and shadowling definitely are not preticipating on there own will since they are being purchased from the market as well
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 24, 2010, 02:15:43 PM
the spiggurats and shadowling definitely are not preticipating on there own will since they are being purchased from the market as well
I bet the slave owner of the "The Mouth Breathers" came up with the team name.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: Zackirus on April 25, 2010, 03:15:09 PM
Well, I think that Spearmen, Swordsmen, Assassins are probably mercenaries because they are humans and they like to fight. Shadowlings and Spriggats on the other hand might be slaves because of the knowledge they have. I doubt that a Spriggat would want to fight, more or less a shadowling would want to watch the “fleshings” battle it out. Archers and Healer and Spirits, I think could go both ways as they could have equal reasons not to fight or to fight. I think Healers would be more inclined to be slaves because (and even though they aren’t all like set) they wouldn’t want to hurt people.

But Hey a Character is a Character 
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 25, 2010, 05:43:04 PM
Well, I think that Spearmen, Swordsmen, Assassins are probably mercenaries because they are humans and they like to fight.
To an assassin and a swordsman, the Hero said, "We? You are in the tournament because I purchased you, and you're on my team. And I...well. I am in this tournament for reasons of my own."  The Hero talks to him like a slave and not like a hired gun.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: torugo on April 25, 2010, 06:47:55 PM
one thing i dont get is how spirits turned out to be slaves. how can you force a spirit to participate. you cant kill them so what do they have to lose
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 26, 2010, 01:12:46 PM
one thing i dont get is how spirits turned out to be slaves. how can you force a spirit to participate. you cant kill them so what do they have to lose
They are propably tricked into fighting.  If one can trick Azma into thinking his name is Zalam, then a smart guy could convince spirits that they were loyal sevants during their lives.

I wouldn't call spirits mercenaries, because I don't see a spirit needing money.  If there was a third category, then they would be in it.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: torugo on April 26, 2010, 04:14:51 PM
stone golems, energy golems, and bronze golems are slaves provided by the mechanics. but is there a reason they wont let you purchase them
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 26, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
stone golems, energy golems, and bronze golems are slaves provided by the mechanics. but is there a reason they wont let you purchase them
The Mechanic are not selling them, because it is more profitable to use the golems themselves.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: torugo on April 26, 2010, 04:48:57 PM
there was one enemy team description that said "this team had poured out all of there money to get a bronze golem and youre going to make them cry when you break it" so appearently they are selling them
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on April 26, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
there was one enemy team description that said "this team had poured out all of there money to get a bronze golem and youre going to make them cry when you break it" so appearently they are selling them
They put all their money into buying the parts to build a bronze golem.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: torugo on April 29, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
it is a litttle confusing since there are some teams that there owner does not battle. and some that there owner do.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on June 07, 2010, 11:09:10 AM
it is a litttle confusing since there are some teams that there owner does not battle. and some that there owner do.
It is not that hard to understand.  Some owners are warriors that fights alongside their teams like the TPA2 Hero (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Hero_(TPA2)), while other owners are sponsors like Shiraz Al'Jaj (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Shiraz_Al%27Jaj).  Sponsors hire soldiers like Zem the Reaper (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Zem_the_Reaper) and the TPA1 Hero (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Hero_(TPA1)) to lead their teams in battle.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: Duskling on June 10, 2010, 04:17:07 PM
I'd guess that slaves are the majority of combatants. I think so because, while I've never played before, I've seen enough from the video on Sinister Design that most combatants happend to be slaves, did you see how many there were on the market?
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on June 11, 2010, 07:10:10 AM
I thought the visible people at the meat market (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/File:Meat_Market.JPG) were buying slaves.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: Duskling on June 11, 2010, 04:18:43 PM
I meant the slaves that were being bought.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on June 17, 2010, 08:18:02 AM
The meat market auctions off slaves and mercenaries.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: KZ on June 24, 2010, 08:35:54 AM
Methinks that given that Spriggats and Shadowlings are slaves, and that, as per prior arguments, the spirits are likely to be tricked into coming (thus a very dodgy case of coming on their own accord, save for the single time when one fights a team of spirits who haven't realized that they died and simply show up every year to fight- those can be considered as mercenaries), thus can be considered as "slaves". Then, pretty much a mixture of merecnaries and slaves amongst humans, thus I would think that a slight majority of the participants are slaves. I would draw the parallel to the Colosseum, where throughout history most participants were slaves, rather than mercenaries.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: Dorgon 5000 on June 27, 2010, 08:55:14 AM
I think they are slaves. They don´t seem like they really want to fight, and they are afraid of the meat market.
Title: Re: Slave or Mercenary
Post by: SmartyPants on September 27, 2010, 08:37:38 AM
I think they are slaves. They don´t seem like they really want to fight, and they are afraid of the meat market.
Why do you think they are afraid of the meat market?

How do you know they don't want to fight?  In the Roman Empire/Republic there were paid volunteers (auctorati) who fought as gladiators.  Maybe there are many people like the Hero who choose to fight for wealth and fame.