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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: KZ on February 07, 2010, 04:23:25 PM

Title: The Rules
Post by: KZ on February 07, 2010, 04:23:25 PM
As set by CraigStern on the old forums:
"All right folks, there are only a few rules for posting here (as of right now--more may be added later if the need arises):

-- no pornography
-- no hate speech
-- no spamming
-- no flaming
-- no advertising (as of 5-27-11)

Doing any of those things is a bad idea, and will probably get you banned from these forums.

What should you do, then?

-- be polite
-- use proper grammar
-- consult dictionary.com when in doubt about how to spell something

That's all. Now go off and have fun!"
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Steelfist on February 09, 2010, 10:01:27 AM
I was wondering, since when you write a really long post, the reply box starts acting up, could you double-post occasionally for the really long posts? It would make things a lot easier.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: KZ on February 09, 2010, 10:54:39 AM
Wasn't aware of that problem: I think it's worth pointing out to CraigStern about the replay box issue. Otherwise, if it's used sensibly and not too often, I don't see why not. An alternative can be to write half-a-post, post it, then edit it and add extra text to it.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zhampir on February 09, 2010, 06:03:08 PM
That same reason is why, when I suggested redoing the RTD with all the rules and stats and stuff, that they be separated into several posts
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: CraigStern on February 25, 2010, 08:26:28 AM
As of right now, you must have 5 posts in order to post in General. This is to deal with the annoying spambots who keep signing up and posting there. Let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zhampir on March 04, 2010, 12:14:01 AM
How come I still see posts in the General by people who have posted twice?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: CraigStern on March 04, 2010, 11:00:46 AM
Er, yes. I changed it to two posts, since I've restricted first posts to Newbie Land, and Introductions is the only place you're allowed to post if you're not a spam bot. It seemed silly to make someone post more than once in Introductions.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: hellboy222 on March 05, 2010, 09:03:08 AM
unless that person has multiple personality disorder then they need to post more than once in intro if the other personalities want to join.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: CraigStern on March 05, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
Okay, update: I've installed a mod to the forums that makes new users answer a simple question when they first sign up. Spambots can't get around this. Since that's in place now, I've removed the post restrictions entirely. :)
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zackirus on March 13, 2010, 07:06:33 PM
I know I sound stupid (but I'm not) but what is flamming?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zhampir on March 13, 2010, 07:19:33 PM
A term for generally bashing another user. Threatening, cursing, attempting to start a fight, and other unreasonably aggressive behaviors. Rebutting another is fine, but flat out aggression is not.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Tastidian on March 27, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
These rules are fairly simple it would kind of hard to brake them. But it all depends on ones personality does it not?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zackirus on March 27, 2010, 12:32:31 PM
These rules are fairly simple it would kind of hard to brake them. But it all depends on ones personality does it not?

Well if you like to diss people's ideas and make them feel stupid (not metioning any names) then ya it does.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: KZ on March 27, 2010, 12:42:11 PM
Aye, you would be surprised... but so far, we're keeping it civil, let's hope it continiues to be so!
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Presentiment on March 27, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
These rules are fairly simple it would kind of hard to brake them. But it all depends on ones personality does it not?

well if you like to diss people's ideas and make them feel stupid (not metioning any names) then ya it does

Two silly truthinesses? (if that's the plural of truthiness)
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zhampir on March 28, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
If you can't say something politely don't say anything at all.

- How's that for a rule?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: WeBing on April 04, 2010, 09:55:55 PM
CraigStern is a lawyer so he would never implement that rule.

Not implying that lawyers aren't impolite, but because it would be obvious that rule can easily be bent due to its subjectiveness.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: MikeW781 on April 07, 2010, 04:18:48 PM
how about:
"If you've been banned and make a new account, you shouldn't announce that you used to be Presentiment. Oops! I mean, you shouldn't announce that you were once banned."
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Pylons on April 21, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
Well that would be counter-productive because it slows mods from banning aforementioned user.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Zhampir on April 22, 2010, 03:35:06 AM
Besides that, Craig said that if Pres came back as a productive member of this society then he would be allowed to stay.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Steelfist on May 16, 2010, 04:17:35 PM
I wonder why WeBing hasn't been banned yet, then?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: CraigStern on May 21, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
I wonder why WeBing hasn't been banned yet, then?

Ahem: http://sinisterdesign.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=145
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bob on October 24, 2010, 12:14:40 PM
Quote
Okay, update: I've installed a mod to the forums that makes new users answer a simple question when they first sign up. Spambots can't get around this. Since that's in place now, I've removed the post restrictions entirely. Smiley
A spambot could just go back and answer the questions correctly, and wait to get to the forum before they start spamming.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on October 24, 2010, 12:30:53 PM
 Good point. But dont they change? Oh no. I think I remember seeing that before. Isnt that the mark of Webing?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bob on October 24, 2010, 12:37:40 PM
what you mean "dont they change?"
close enough
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on October 24, 2010, 12:41:11 PM
I havn't looked but I think that the questions change.
What is that supposed to mean? Hmm?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bob on October 24, 2010, 12:43:48 PM
So what if they change? If you get one wrong, you just go back and fix it. There's even a back button, and you don't get kicked out. I know from experience.
I'm almost having fun messing with you
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on October 24, 2010, 12:47:50 PM
Alright. I'm gonna look at that.
Don't have too much fun. I can get a temper.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: cyso on October 24, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Don't bother looking at it, I already did, hence the user bob, which I will delete. But my point is, it is very easy for anyone to get on the forum, spammer or not. Getting the question wrong doesn't eject you, so a spammer could just go back, get the question right, and get onto the forum. I really don't know any way to prevent this except to kick the user out if they miss the question once.
By the way, my name is not bob.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on October 24, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Though what if there is a typo and it is an honest person wanting to join? And bob? Really?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: cyso on October 24, 2010, 12:59:29 PM
Yes, that presents a problem, which is probably why Craig doesn't use my method. I don't know what the best method would be, but spambots can get around the question...
Sorry about bob, he's already deleted. I hope I didn't waste your time by making you check the account registration system.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on October 24, 2010, 01:01:47 PM
What if a 3 strike your out method was used? And it's fine. You only made me log out.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Idozen Cair on December 13, 2010, 06:52:26 AM
how about:
"If you've been banned and make a new account, you shouldn't announce that you used to be Presentiment. Oops! I mean, you shouldn't announce that you were once banned."
I've heard in almost every topic something about Presentiment. Who is he? People here say he used to be a nuisence in the forum. May someone explain please?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: MikeW781 on December 13, 2010, 03:18:17 PM
He was the only really persistant troll these forums ever had to deal with. People make a huge deal about him, because he was trolling since before the new forums were up, and Im not sure how long he was with the old forums. After he got banned, he came back a few times, and then was either sucessfully banned, or just got bored, and left.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: CraigStern on May 27, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I've added a new rule prohibiting advertising on the forums. Specifically, that means: do not post about things that are intended to earn you money.

So, for example, if you wrote a song or a story, or you created a free Flash game, and you just want to tell people about it, that's totally fine. But if you're selling it (or earning advertising revenue from it), then it's advertising, and it violates forum rules to post about it in a way designed to attract customers/viewers/players.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Idozen Cair on May 28, 2011, 08:28:19 AM
So, Demon Duck's Maelstrom is fine but Game Crazy Kid's Essay Help is not, right?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Duskling on May 28, 2011, 11:20:52 AM
So, Demon Duck's Maelstrom is fine but Game Crazy Kid's Essay Help is not, right?
Right, that's because Duck's game is non-profit, while Game Crazy Kid's offered five dollars per essay.

Edit: And it's not "Essay Help," it's "Writing Your Essays for You."
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: ArtDrake on June 07, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
So... does your rule include free games that may be on Kongregate, where each additional hit may inadvertently earn you $.0035 USD, but for the most part, you just want to share the game with your friends?

Sorry about the hypothetical, but I'd rather this came up sooner than later.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: Duskling on June 07, 2011, 08:32:04 PM
So, for example, if you wrote a song or a story, or you created a free Flash game, and you just want to tell people about it, that's totally fine. But if you're selling it (or earning advertising revenue from it), then it's advertising, and it violates forum rules to post about it in a way designed to attract customers/viewers/players.
That may be what you mean, Duck.

So... does your rule include free games that may be on Kongregate, where each additional hit may inadvertently earn you $.0035 USD, but for the most part, you just want to share the game with your friends?
Edit: I just realized it's not, but, I think that because it has the slightest potential to earn you money it counts, but I'm not trying to seem high-and-mighty, and the final decision is up to Craig, because I can't read minds... no pun intended.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on June 07, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
So, could you advertise it in your sig, Craig?
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: CraigStern on June 10, 2011, 01:58:55 PM
So... does your rule include free games that may be on Kongregate, where each additional hit may inadvertently earn you $.0035 USD, but for the most part, you just want to share the game with your friends?

Sorry about the hypothetical, but I'd rather this came up sooner than later.

Believe it or not, I thought about this. Let's re-read what I wrote and parse it:

Quote
if you're selling it (or earning advertising revenue from it), then it's advertising, and it violates forum rules to post about it in a way designed to attract customers/viewers/players.

So clearly, a game where you earn ad revenue is something subjecct to the No Advertising rule. However, it isn't a problem just so long as you post about it in a way that isn't "designed to attract customers/viewers/players."

For example: suppose you just post to brag about finishing the game, or to brag about how well it's doing on Kongregate. You don't post a link, and you don't ask people to go to Kongregate and play the game. Under those circumstances, you're fine.
Title: Re: The Rules
Post by: bugfartboy on June 10, 2011, 06:20:34 PM
So lawyering skills DO come in handy! Alrighty. If I ever make a game, I'll follow that rule.