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Forum Games / Re: Corrupt a Wish Foundation
« on: March 12, 2011, 03:00:26 PM »
Granted. It explodes in your bed room and burns down your house.
I wish I had a new, better cello.
I wish I had a new, better cello.
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What if a man or woman was the most atrocious person to have ever lived, but they didn't care?
What if they thought everything they did was right, and they were a Christian, and they prayed, and they worshipped, and they obeyed the commandments, and they never committed a deadly sin. What then, if they, throughout their whole life, wronged people to the greatest extent, while simply thinking themselves shrewd, or impassive, or oblivious?
What if they never defied their moral compass once, with no sin because they had no concept of good or evil, because they never had been told that the things they did were evil, wrong, atrocious; or maybe they had been told, but their faith blinded them, leading them to believe they were only working in the service of their Lord? No sin. God would have to let him or her in through the pearly gates, and everyone would know him or her, and they would recoil in fear of the awful person they knew in life whom they swore would not follow them into death. And "Heaven" would be as Hell. Fear, chaos, evil, lies would spread through the promised land above, and this merciless scourge without sin would leave hate and loathing where he went.
Now consider the opposite case. A man or woman learns of wrongs and rights, but they a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Taoist, a Confucianist, an aborigine with tribal beliefs. They live their life as best they can, and they go to Hell. This is why I don't like the message Christianity tries to get across, and for other reasons, too.
And punctuate your sentences correctly, will you? It's hard to read when you don't.
If there is a god, his actions throughout the centuries have not earned him my worship, but my enmity. If there is a god, he has allowed his holy teachings to be debased, misused and distorted. If there is a god, he is a murderer - a genocidal maniac who has committed more evil than any demon in the name of a passing fancy!
Why are we supposed to worship him merely for creating us, then proceeding to fill our lives with suffering and pain? If he is real, he is not perfect, but more flawed than any human.
If you see make a mistake, then correct it yourself.Sorry, but my computer doesn't always cooperate with me, so I'm having some difficulty getting on the wiki now. I don't think I'll get around to correcting it for a while.
Moral code isn't built in.
I will defend that argument to the death (And beyond, if there is an afterlife).
If somebody did not have a moral code, or had read the bible, and sinned, would they be an evil person? Of course not. As for the whole 'into heaven or hell'; I have been emphatically told by several devout christians that 'Lack of Baptism = Limbo at Best'. Nonetheless, as nobody likes the thought of unfairness, people tend to gloss over this.
Before you think of arguing with the 'lack of moral code' thing, it has been proven that brain disorders can impede the knowledge of right and wrong, and it can be undermined by upbringing. My scenario is perfectly possible.
In addition, don't you think that these people - Muslim, Hindu, etc - KNOW that their own religion is the true one?
Why don't you step back and examine religion with some objectivity? From a neutral standpoint, christianity looks completely absurd. If god is real, he's having a laugh at your expense.
If you had no way of knowing about Christianity, then what happens, if you haven't sinned, and you die? Limbo?Romans 3:23
That isn't exactly what I meant. It's one thing to make an honest mistake. I'm talking about saying or doing something that you really shouldn't be saying or doing, but not realizing then that what you are doing is really a bad thing. Something that doesn't look wrong at first, but if you look at it in hindsight, it's wrong.I think you can sin without fully realizing what you are doing. For example, when Jesus was dying, he said "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing." They might have known they were killing an innocent man, but they certainly didn't realize they were killing the son of God. But, Jesus still asked God to forgive them.So then, thinking something is yours because it looks identical to it and taking it is a sin? Killing is a crime and morally wrong altogether, don't get me wrong, but what if a kid sees a lollipop on a counter and just takes it because it looks like nobody wants it? Would that child be a sinner? Would he/she go to Hell because of a mistake?