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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #570 on: September 06, 2010, 04:13:10 PM »

Honestly? Not really- I stated before that I think she's the most complete teammate to date, and I think that her attacks will remain relevant throughout the entire game through all the difficulties.

However, this attack seems to be relatievly popular, thus I am at least trying to suggest a form which is least disbalancing. Plus there is that argument that there isn't really a proper area attack for any of the teammates apart from Duvalier (I'll be content if Griffin gets his Whirlwind and Rahel doesn't get this extra attack).
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #571 on: September 06, 2010, 04:52:36 PM »

What do people think of stealth knife, I'm itching to know, I of course vote yay on the revised version.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #572 on: September 06, 2010, 04:54:32 PM »

I definitely don't like the "damage to self" part- he has no issues with making Leap, and he should be able to handle the knife well enough in order to not hurt himself.
If that gets removed, then it's a "yay" from me.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #573 on: September 06, 2010, 04:56:11 PM »

Very well, no damage to self, I did thatjust in case it was too powerful but now that I think of it that was pretty stupid.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #574 on: September 06, 2010, 04:58:26 PM »

What do people think of stealth knife, I'm itching to know, I of course vote yay on the revised version.
People have suggested Lunge and Fling before and it was shot down because no one saw the need for a ranged attack when Arman's speed was so great.

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #575 on: September 06, 2010, 05:01:08 PM »

True but it makes for a powerful first strike, is yours a yay or a nay?
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #576 on: September 06, 2010, 05:03:24 PM »

I want to hear more opinions before I vote for or against the attack.


I don't know if I can do this, but "Nay" on the attack name of "stealth knife".

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #577 on: September 06, 2010, 05:06:26 PM »

I vote yay for stealth knife. Arman needs some diverse offensive moves. 3 of them are practically the same and leap is a neutral.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #578 on: September 06, 2010, 05:07:11 PM »

I like the arrow rain idea, but I don't like the empty spot in the middle:
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I'm not too keen on the stealth knife. It's not too unique. It works like a stronger bow shot or spear throw.

What if Arman had a jump'n'stab attack that allows him to move afterwards.

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Armans jumps over the enemy, quickly stabs him while in the air, gaining thrust to reach the other side of the enemy, still able to move on or attack again.
The damage would not be too high, perhaps close to knife (this move is to finish off an enemy and escape from the other enemies nearby).
Cost: 12 PsP and 2 movement steps.
Perhaps the engine isn't prepared to decrease the number of steps after an attack...
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #579 on: September 06, 2010, 05:07:51 PM »

Very well, I commend your commitment to being well informed.@im2smatr4u
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #580 on: September 06, 2010, 05:09:24 PM »

I wouldn't mind having such an attack- I think it will fall into the same class as backhander: not used that often, as it is situational, but can come in really handy. For instance, with this Arman lunge attack, he can attack from a spot which is not as exposed to enemy attack, or can prevent enemies from back-stabbing him if he is 2 places from an enemy. Also, this will be a unique melee/ranged attack, allowing Arman to reach this many more enemies (effecticely adding +1 to his speed to get a small advantage over Malis with Shadowport, which is superior to Leap).


Ert: I believe that mofdification was also suggested before. But I do find it interesting, however, maybe make it so that Arman doesn't move after the attack? Again, this is highly situational, and I am not sure if it's better than the other idea.


It's good to be well informed, let's leave it at that ;)
Though, people are quite entitled to have short, emotional based opinons- after all, if that's how they percieve and enjoy the game, then it's a valid point to make.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #581 on: September 06, 2010, 05:10:16 PM »

That sounds like another attack altogether, maybe we should vote on that seperately.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #582 on: September 06, 2010, 05:10:47 PM »

Well, with his stealth knife attack, he could have his back to the wall, and not want to move away from it but still want to hit an enemy. It's a niche move, but seriously, so is backhander.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #583 on: September 06, 2010, 05:14:39 PM »

Exactly, plus as APoC said arman needs diverse attacks.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #584 on: September 06, 2010, 07:02:48 PM »

What about Rajav having this:

Parry and Riposte

As it turns out, Rajav was studying fencing tecniques that could be accomplished without breaking his spear, and discovered that by setting a defensive stance, he could flick an attack aside with his spear and his Gift, letting him not take damage from the front the following turn. What's more, he can use both his Gift and his spear together to fend off Psy attacks. Then, if the enemy is in front of him, he can quickly respond with a powerful counter attack.

Cost: 9
Damage of counter: 2x level + 1.3*Psy Power


This might be hard to code, but I like the idea, so if someone can come up with a better incarnation of it, I'd be pleased as punch (or judy).
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