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Would you kill Grotius after defeating Cerzak?

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Bromtaghon

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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2010, 11:28:28 PM »

Ah yes, the infamous Long Post of KZ.
Basically, the Main can either choose certain replies and be affected by the Shadowling's customs, or s(he) can not.
The humans and Grotius may influence his perspective, especially his best friends.
KZ thinks the Main should be a bit wary about what the Shadowlings say and what Nelis stands for.
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2010, 11:41:15 PM »

Well i prefer shadowlings over spriggats anywasy, and besides, it pleases Darkeye to kill him also. Nelis reminds me of Queen Elizabeth, I don't know how, but she does, so I don't se anything wrong with the Queen. Sure, she has a lot of wars going on but she is quite certain of winning them before she starts them, not including human interfearance (which includes the main and the psy academy).
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2010, 11:50:31 PM »

You're taking the side of the Shadowlings, which, quite frankly, I probably wouldn't have done if I was the Main.  Slaves generally dislike their captors, so I'd be a bit biased against them and would be more willing to believe that Cerzak shouldn't be killed.
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 01:05:21 PM »

It's hardly something you enjoy, slavery, is it?

Anyway. I don't think there are any negative side effects if you don't kill Cerzak, but there are if you do (Unless you don't have Grotius on the team, at which point this becomes largely immaterial). Logic would suggest sparing his life, even if you don't use Grotius.
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2010, 08:48:06 AM »

I like spriggats, so I always let Cerzak live. Also, Grotius is one of my favorite characters, so I always want to keep him.
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 01:42:05 PM »

Ah yes, the infamous Long Post of KZ.
Basically, the Main can either choose certain replies and be affected by the Shadowling's customs, or s(he) can not.
The humans and Grotius may influence his perspective, especially his best friends.
KZ thinks the Main should be a bit wary about what the Shadowlings say and what Nelis stands for.

Aye, Bromtaghon got that right.
Not sure lentro why would the Queen association eclipse what Nelis does and stands for, and where that association comes from in the first place? Surely it's not the voice..? :P
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 09:16:32 PM »

This entire topic narrows down to which side you would choose. If you like the shadowlings, then you would probably kill grotius and the academy, if you liked the spriggats, you would spare their lives and kill nelis. I dislike the spriggats, so its natural I would prefer them dead.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2010, 03:41:35 PM by lentro »
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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2010, 02:00:04 AM »

But only propably. I like about shadowlings(they have strong personalities ;D ) more than spriggats(i would like to know more about them) , but i still always choose the ending where i turn against Nelis, because she is causing problems to humans and spriggats and sometimes for shadowlings too for her own good.

And about choices that Main makes: though (s)he has forgot his/her past life, her/his personality and morale might remain same: they arenīt contacted to human memory straightly. And Main remembered things from her/his past by himself/herself, so maybe shadowlings havenīt took Mains memory, maybe they just hid it from his/her conscious mind?

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Re: Grotuis
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 02:52:31 PM »

Methinks from an in-game point of view FlyingFinn has it right- it really boils down to how much the Main is affected by the Shadowling prejudices over the Main's own upbringing. And I'd also suspect that not all will choose the sides on the basis of who they like more (that is to say, using some completely irrelevant, like Shadowlings look cooler, criteria) - Shadowlings or Spriggats, but along the lines of what each of the 3 main races stands for and which choices prior to that the player followed - thus more from a participant, than observer standpoint.
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