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[Cypher]

What are your beliefs?

[The Holy namelesskitty]

This will not end well, it will turn into flaming, and will tear us all apart, please lock this.

[Ertxiem]

I hope that we are able to share our views in a polite way, without flaming.

[Steelfist]

Agreed; I, for one, am an atheist, who denies both occult and ethereal influences, but I can respect the views of others.

The Beliefs of Steelfist:

1) There are no divine beings.

2) There is no such thing as demons.

3) The dead are dead, and pretending otherwise is disrespectful to the dead and often unhealthy for the living.

4) People are responsible for their own actions. If somebody does good, it is because they chose to, if somebody does evil, it is because they chose to. Neither any gods nor and devils forced them.

I am happy to defend my views, and change them. It might be best off moved to the politics section.

[Duskling]

Agreed; I, for one, am an atheist, who denies both occult and ethereal influences, but I can respect the views of others.

The Beliefs of Steelfist:

1) There are no divine beings.

2) There is no such thing as demons.

3) The dead are dead, and pretending otherwise is disrespectful to the dead and often unhealthy for the living.

4) People are responsible for their own actions. If somebody does good, it is because they chose to, if somebody does evil, it is because they chose to. Neither any gods nor and devils forced them.

I am happy to defend my views, and change them. It might be best off moved to the politics section.

I would have to agree with that, seeing as how no religion has any hard evidence of their gods or demons, or of Heaven or Hell. I'm a fairly open-minded person, but until I have some proof of God, Jesus, etc., I will have to say that I don't believe in them.

[Steelfist]

Meanwhile, the belief that the world acts according to certain rules is fairly conclusively proven.

[Xemadus Echina]

You can not change the laws of Physics... Religion on the other hand is governed by whatever keeps you in power - I forget who said this but it is true in so many ways.

[The Holy namelesskitty]

Agreed, one cannot prove not come up with solid evidence of any deity, however is that not tha basis of religion, would you peleive in, for instance a coffee table, after all one can easily prove it's existance, but nobody would because there is no beleif where as with god one must beleive hence the term faith is often equated with religion.

[Xemadus Echina]

spell check/grammar check please.  Reading that actually forced me to think about what it meant.

[The Holy namelesskitty]

Sorry, my iphone has a terrible keyboard and no spell check, the grammer was because I tried to quote but it got all messed up.

[Tastidian]

Might I add that though I am one of belief I can say the hard evidence escapes me. Also the iPhone key board is good I am using it right now. The new software should give auto correction and at least underline in red.

Edit: As Helen Hayes once said "love is perhaps the only glimpse we are permited of eternity."

[The Holy namelesskitty]

I beleive that I need new software.

[Duskling]

Well, while religions are about God, Jesus, Heavan, Hell, etc., they are actually mainly formed for one reason: hope. Religion gives someone to turn to for help, even if no-one is there to listen, the believers will think whenever something good happens, that their god caused it, and they're thankful for that.

[Cypher]

I have the same beliefs than Steelfist.

[MikeW781]

I, too, agree with Steelfist. However, what Duskie-poo said is right; religons are often centered around hope, hope that justice will always be served, hope that we will see our loved ones again, and hope that there is something more than the world than we know. Therefore, despite being non-religous, I respect and accept any religons, provided they are not twisted in cases like the terrorist factions of Islam.

(Note: I am not perpetuating the stereotype that Islam is a religon of terror, merely stating that I do not condone the factions in which it is turned into one)