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Title: Happy Holidays
Post by: Duskling on December 24, 2010, 02:54:58 AM
'T is the season, and I would like to wish all of you here a merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Yule, (not placed in any order) or whatever else you or your race celebrates. :)
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: bugfartboy on December 24, 2010, 09:25:17 AM
Darn. Duskie Poo beat me to it. :p
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: ArtDrake on December 24, 2010, 10:27:04 AM
Those actually seem to be placed in the order of popularity, descending, and probably just the order you thought of them. I take no offense.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: SmartyPants on December 24, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
Hanukkah was like two weeks ago, no one celebrates Kwanzaa, and I have never heard of Yule.  On Chirstmas Eve, just say "Merry Christmas".
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: bugfartboy on December 24, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
Ducky is using in an attempt to contradict Buggy's old sig. But Yule actually refers to the Christmas Season.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: Duskling on December 24, 2010, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: im2smart4u on December 24, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
no one celebrates Kwanzaa
Now that is just mean. All I'll say.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: bugfartboy on December 24, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
I think he meant no one HERE celebrates Kwanzaa.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: Duskling on December 24, 2010, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: Pum-kin on December 24, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
I think he meant no one HERE celebrates Kwanzaa.
That doesn't matter, it's still a pretty unsavory thing to say.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: SmartyPants on December 24, 2010, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: Duskling on December 24, 2010, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: im2smart4u on December 24, 2010, 11:06:43 AMno one celebrates Kwanzaa
Now that is just mean. All I'll say.
How is that mean?
Do you know anyone how celebrates Kwanzaa? Even if you say yes, I won't believe you.

Kwanzaa was only created, because black nationalist didn't want to celebrate Christmas, because they associated Christmas with white people.  It is hard to respect a holiday created for the sole purpose of seperating Americans based on race.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: Duskling on December 24, 2010, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: im2smart4u on December 24, 2010, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: Duskling on December 24, 2010, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: im2smart4u on December 24, 2010, 11:06:43 AMno one celebrates Kwanzaa
Now that is just mean. All I'll say.
Kwanzaa was only created, because black nationalist didn't want to celebrate Christmas, because they associated Christmas with white people.  It is hard to respect a holiday created for the sole purpose of seperating Americans based on race.
Be that as it may, that doesn't mean it's wrong for African-Americans to celebrate it, now, I'm not changing my first post and erasing Kwanzaa, so let's drop this, shall we?
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on December 24, 2010, 08:06:13 PM
You forgot solstice and Eid ul adha as well as the upcoming new year. Oohhh and commercialism day!
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: ArtDrake on December 24, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
Yule is the original pagan holiday that Christians took over, and renamed as the festival of the Nativity, or equated with it. Purists from Germanic regions, neopagans, and Christians celebrate Yule.

Ever heard of a Bûche de Noël? "Yule Log".

Ever heard anything Noël? Noël = Yule.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on December 24, 2010, 08:40:44 PM
True, and according to most religious historians Jesus Christ was actually born in late spring. Christmas was celebrated first in the winter because it coincided with Yule.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: bugfartboy on December 24, 2010, 10:12:49 PM
Actually, Ducky, if you translate "Noël" from it's original French into English it means "Christmas".
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: ArtDrake on December 24, 2010, 11:25:19 PM
Who told you that one?

Go to Google Translate.

Go to translate.reference.com

Go to a French-English dictionary NOT printed by Americans.

Bûche de Noël DIRECTLY translates to "Yule Log", or "Log of Yule".

The adoption of the term Noël as meaning Christmas only can along later.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: bugfartboy on December 24, 2010, 11:59:07 PM
You had only stated Noël. You had not mentioned Bûche de Noël. And still, once again, if you look at the definition of Yule, two out of three of the definitions found on www.dictionary.com refer to Christmas. The only other definition refers to a pagan feast which I did not think you, being atheist and all, would celebrate.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: ArtDrake on December 25, 2010, 01:00:32 AM
I hadn't mentioned it; Buche de Noel was only for sake of example, and you might have heard of it -- it's a very yummy dessert.

Yes, Yule is a pagan feast, pagan meaning "non-Abrahamic" to you Christians. The people celebrating it were polytheistic, but Yule has retained its status as a CULTURAL event, not a RELIGIOUS event, and thus I celebrate it. Happy Yuletide.

"Troll we now the Yuletide carols!"

'Tis a pagan song!, call'd "Deck the Halls".
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: SmartyPants on December 26, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
Quote from: im2smart4u on December 24, 2010, 11:06:43 AMno one celebrates Kwanzaa
Ironically, I met a girl who celebrates Kwanzaa.  She convinced her parents to do it, so she gets 7 more presents.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: Steelfist on December 26, 2010, 06:26:15 PM
Well, merry christmas (Or various holiday  ;) )
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: ArtDrake on December 26, 2010, 11:08:06 PM
But the presents tend to be a bit smaller... and don't people get many presents from their parents on Chirstmas Day, as opposed to 7 one-present days? So it would work out to be close to even.
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: cyso on December 27, 2010, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: The Holy namelesskitty on December 24, 2010, 08:40:44 PM
True, and according to most religious historians Jesus Christ was actually born in late spring. Christmas was celebrated first in the winter because it coincided with Yule.
Christmas is on the December 25 because that is when the Magi (also known as the wise men) arrived in Bethlehem to bring gifts to Jesus when he was a child.

Here is a sight I found interesting about the star of Bethlehem. Personally, I think the DVD is much better than the site, but oh well.
http://www.bethlehemstar.net/ (http://www.bethlehemstar.net/)
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: ArtDrake on December 27, 2010, 05:44:42 PM
Do you have that info straight from a wiseman?
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: cyso on December 27, 2010, 06:11:21 PM
I got the information from the website and the corresponding DVD.