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Poll
Question: After Mission 4, which personality do you perfer?
Option 1: Luca votes: 8
Option 2: Luca'ra'il votes: 6
Option 3: I don't know what you are talking about (didn't Pre-Order) votes: 11
Title: Luca or Luca'ra'il? (Locked)
Post by: SmartyPants on January 06, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
[Warning--this topic contains spoilers! --Craig]

[spoiler]Based on your choices in Mission 4, Luca will keep her personality or think she is the Angel of Yawah, Luca'ra'il.  Which personality do you perfer and why?

Depending on which personality you pick, you may get new attacks:
Luca- Transfer 2 (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Transfer_2)
Luca'ra'il- Light Blast (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Blast)[/spoiler]


I started the topic and poll over, because it was full of off-topic spam about how we should pity people who havn't pre-ordered.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: HeadShot on January 11, 2011, 08:26:38 PM
Yeah. It really was alot of spam.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: SmartyPants on February 06, 2011, 11:37:52 PM
Quote from: CraigStern on February 06, 2011, 10:12:43 PMThe plan is to give Luca a new attack or two, and which attack(s) she get(s) depend(s) on whether she is Luca or Luca'ra'il.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Zackirus on February 09, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
Based on Nothing:

I think that the attacks might be Cold Attacks (Cryo Blast/Cross) if she becomes Luca'ra'il, and perhaps im2smart4u's Pirouette if she stays as Luca, but he may choose anything.

[spoiler]Offensive ghosts have Cryo attacks so it makes sense.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
Quote from: CraigStern on October 08, 2010, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: im2smart4u on September 18, 2010, 12:12:39 PM
Luca
Pirouette-
Luca uses her mysterious powers to rotate her friends or foes 180°.  This would help teammates face thier foes and enemies turn their backs on your friends.
Element: Spirit
Range: 2 Spaces
Cost: 5 Psy Points
Damage: No Damage

Ooh! Nice one. I like it. ;D
[/quote
[/spoiler]

What does everyone think?
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: SmartyPants on February 09, 2011, 11:09:02 AM
I had the same theory.  Luca will have another support based attack, while Luca'ra'il will have an offensive Cyro attack.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: ArtDrake on February 10, 2011, 04:27:09 PM
I think it would probably be Cyro Cross -- it had better be worth alienating everyone in Ravinale.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Zackirus on February 10, 2011, 05:24:15 PM
Even better: it's light blast and possibly light bomb (though it's even more deep than that, you lose Qudssi and miss out on Transfer 2
and possibly juxtapose 2)
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: ArtDrake on February 10, 2011, 07:56:31 PM
Ooh-la-la! Transfer two?
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Zackirus on February 10, 2011, 09:47:53 PM
Transfer except... Omnidirectional!

Transfer 2:

OOOOO
OXXXO
OXLXO
OXXXO
OOOOO

It is... amazing

Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: ArtDrake on February 11, 2011, 09:37:23 PM
Cost? I hope not eight times Transfer 1...

Even if it were, I'd use it. Sometimes.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: SmartyPants on February 12, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
Transfer 2 is one of the coolest looking attacks in the game.  It is very useful too.

Quote
Quote from: im2smart4u on August 03, 2010, 03:23:44 PMContribute- Luca has become so skilled at transfering (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Transfer) PsP that she can contribute PsP to as much as three teammates at once.
Range: 1 (the 3 spaces infront)
Cost: Psy Power + Contribute Level
Amount Transferred: (Psy Power + Contribute Level)/2
Status Effects: Target's PsP increases

OXXXO
OOLOO
OOOOO

L = Luca
X = Target space
O = uneffected space
Quote from: MikeW781 on August 04, 2010, 10:07:45 AMNot sure about Contribute, it seems uneeded. I never found that I had three people lined up that were out of, or close to being out of, Psp
Quote from: algebra15 on August 04, 2010, 05:02:33 PMIt seems like you're strongly for Contribute, im2smart4u. However, the area of the attack being horizontal doesn't sem right. Also, I never find that I need PsP donation, or that much healing for that matter. I play on Brutal friendly-fire, and I still see no need for it. If you truly profess to be a "good" tactician, maybe you shouldn't need it at all?
Quote from: Omega on August 04, 2010, 01:20:03 PMI agree. I see no need for contribute.
Quote from: Omega on August 05, 2010, 01:52:05 AMAs far as I'm concerned, Im2smart4u is the only one who likes contribute.
I find it funny that when I suggested an Area Attack version of Transfer, nobody liked it, but as soon as Transfer 2 was put in the game, the idea became "amazing".
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Zackirus on February 12, 2011, 01:42:39 PM
I never saw the idea (your idea), but I would be for it...
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: ArtDrake on February 12, 2011, 03:06:47 PM
With all honesty, I think it's one of those attacks like Backhander that I think are very cool, but I'd never remember it's there when it would be a good time to use it. Probably worth leveling up, though.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: bugfartboy on February 12, 2011, 09:26:44 PM
Im2smart4u did suggest it. And it was ultimately rejected.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: SmartyPants on June 18, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
Do any newly pre-ordered have any opinions?
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Deagonx on July 09, 2011, 09:16:03 PM
Wouldnt she turn into a Jinn if she was convinced her name was something it wasnt?
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: bugfartboy on July 09, 2011, 11:06:58 PM
Ah! That has been discussed before. I personally think that Names focus the spirit, determining their character. Keeps their hold on things. How they view their name, is how they act. If that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Deagonx on July 10, 2011, 12:26:53 AM
I guess that makes sense. I mean, all a name really is is something your parents give you. If you see fit to not use that name what does it matter? Using my logic Rahel would most definitely become a Jinn :P
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: SmartyPants on August 10, 2011, 12:06:07 AM
Could/Should the "I don't know what you are talking about (didn't Pre-Order)" option be removed from the poll?
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Idozen Cair on August 22, 2011, 01:49:22 AM
No, why should it?
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: SmartyPants on August 23, 2011, 01:49:47 AM
Quote from: bugfartboy on July 09, 2011, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: Deagonx on July 09, 2011, 09:16:03 PMWouldnt she turn into a Jinn if she was convinced her name was something it wasnt?
Ah! That has been discussed before. I personally think that Names focus the spirit, determining their character. Keeps their hold on things. How they view their name, is how they act. If that makes any sense.
I think a spirit needs to a name to hold on to a sense of humanity.  Even if the name and personality of the spirit changes, the spirit won't turn into the animalist Jinn who is run by instinct.

Quote from: Idozen Cair on August 22, 2011, 01:49:22 AMNo, why should it?
Because it is a useless voting choice.  If you didn't prepay, then you shouldn't vote.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: Idozen Cair on August 23, 2011, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: SmartyPants on August 23, 2011, 01:49:47 AM
Quote from: bugfartboy on July 09, 2011, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: Deagonx on July 09, 2011, 09:16:03 PMWouldnt she turn into a Jinn if she was convinced her name was something it wasnt?
Ah! That has been discussed before. I personally think that Names focus the spirit, determining their character. Keeps their hold on things. How they view their name, is how they act. If that makes any sense.
I think a spirit needs to a name to hold on to a sense of humanity.  Even if the name and personality of the spirit changes, the spirit won't turn into the animalist Jinn who is run by instinct.

Quote from: Idozen Cair on August 22, 2011, 01:49:22 AMNo, why should it?
Because it is a useless voting choice.  If you didn't prepay, then you shouldn't vote.
Then why even bother changing the options? It doesn't have a negative nor positive effect on the poll.
About the Jinn thing, yes, I agree with you, Smart. It is mentioned in the game that a spirit only becomes a Jinn when she/he forgets her/his name. Since Luca only transfers from one name+personality to another, she will not become a Jinn. She still retains a name, anchoring her to a sense of humanity.
Title: Re: Luca or Luca'ra'il?
Post by: ArtDrake on August 24, 2011, 07:07:51 PM
Well, I think it's clear that Luca is the personality or aspect of the spirit's character that is retained by your choice to let the poor mob quake in fear in peace; Luca'ra'il is the aspect brought out by a decision to unleash the fury of an angel of Yawah on the crowd.

Whether I have seen Luca'ra'il or not, I know I like Luca better.