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Poll
Question: Do you think Nameless One is The Hero?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
Option 3: Unconvinced on Either
Option 4: Never Thought About it
Title: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Nameless on July 17, 2010, 01:10:05 PM
I understand that there are posts about each of these character's genders and identities, but there isn't specifically an area to compare them without going in between posts. So may I be the one to bring Both together. Also in this one instead of arguing different points just yet I'd like to know some of the facts that relate to each of them. Such as Hair color and Outfit. So first post evidence of your hypothesis on this subject then compare the two. Perhaps we may be able to figure out this riddle... or at least have fun trying.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: SmartyPants on July 17, 2010, 04:03:57 PM
For me, it is 50% David, 40% TRPG2 Hero, and 10% other.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Zackirus on July 17, 2010, 04:09:27 PM
I always thought of the Nameless One was Piter (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Piter (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Piter)) but that is just me!
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Nameless on July 18, 2010, 05:00:02 PM
I did have a little something I posted on TRPG2 forums i'll move over here to this one...

Well after playing the game and TPRPG Servants of God, I could conclude that the charecter is a Male because If you notice the similarities of Nameless one and the Hero in #2, you may become suspicious of his Identity. And with the explanation of the game on the game "The third Chapter in the Telepath RPG series seems Irrelevant to the others in the series... or does It!" I came to the assumption it may be possible for the character Nameless One to be the Same as the Hero Character in Telepath RPG 2, also considering some of the little background knowledge that Nameless One gives us about his past. Please do tell me if I may be onto Anything.
                               - Nameless
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Ertxiem on July 18, 2010, 06:21:48 PM
You may also like to take a look at The Nameless One (http://sinisterdesign.net/forum/index.php?topic=84.0) thread and take a look at the discussion in the old forums about The "Nameless One"! (http://sinisterdesign.freepowerboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1464).
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: KZ on July 22, 2010, 08:29:03 AM
Indeed, thanks for bringing those threads up, Ertxiem!
I'd go with im2msart4u on how I feel on who the Namless One is. Though I do have an issue with the gender- the Main is not gender specific, whilst TSoG inidcates that the Nameless One is an old human male (old coger is not how one refers to women).
My take is that it is David.
What we do know is that we already met this person before in TRPG2 (Craig told us that).
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: SmartyPants on July 22, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
Quote from: KZ on July 22, 2010, 08:29:03 AM
Main is not gender specific, whilst TSoG inidcates that the Nameless One is an old human male (old coger is not how one refers to women).
What is a coger?
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: MikeW781 on July 22, 2010, 08:39:15 PM
He meant to spell codger
Probably
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Tastidian on July 23, 2010, 12:25:00 AM
Or Cogger

Cog"ger\ (k[o^]g"g[~e]r), n. [From Cog to wheedle.] A flatterer or deceiver; a sharper.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: KZ on July 24, 2010, 09:18:56 AM
MikeW781 is right- it's supposed to read codger (an eccentric/strange man, usually an old man).



For the general NO's identity arguments I'd point out his ability to run obfuscation and generally be knowledgeable about scans and such- David was certainly well known for his exceptional skills.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Barzul on July 24, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
My money is on David as well. He's already shown to be very powerful in both TRPG 1 and TRPG 2 (Being the only one in the group to sense the shadowlings before he was captured and his ending in chapter 2: "...became a black cape at the head of his class in record time. He is currently recognized as having the most advanced Scanning abilities of any Psy alive.")
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Tastidian on July 25, 2010, 12:00:33 AM
But it said he was a veteran David never fought in the war. Did he?
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Barzul on July 25, 2010, 03:04:00 AM
Well it depends on where you think the war began and your take on fighting. David was captured by the shadowlings to scan for the spriggats (dissidents), meaning he was scouting for the shadowlings, albeit unwillingly.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: KZ on July 25, 2010, 10:36:27 AM
It does boil down to definitions, but David certainly participated during the Shadow Wars, as he was, effectively, used to break through the Spriggat obfuscation (at least, that is the implication), and he was quite alive and well during the last couple of years of the war, staying at the Psy Academy. Methinks he qualifies (especially as one of the definitions of a veteran is: "a person who has served in the armed forces ", which David certainly did, though, as noted above, not on his own accord).
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Steelfist on July 27, 2010, 02:45:50 PM
It can't really be the Main, as his/her gender is purposefully undetermined, and the Nameless One is male. I must say, David seems the most likely. And  you don't know what he did while you were serving Tastidian, so he may well have fought the shadowlings.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Barzul on July 28, 2010, 01:30:51 AM
Maybe another point: The Nameless One wishes he could have done more to save his parents, and David says (at the end of TRPG 2) that he and the Main are the only ones left. Meaning their parents died while the Main was enslaved (since Falstaff talks about the siblings' father in TRPG 1). David seems pretty upset about it, while the Main doesn't really show anything. It could be she/he was being strong for the little brother, but I think it stacks more evidence to David, as their was nothing the Main could have done, not even knowing about the deaths until 1-4 years after.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: algebra15 on July 31, 2010, 11:55:11 AM
Darn it! I would have sworn it was the Hero, because in the Psy Academy bit of dialogue with the trainer there, and she asks who your trainer is, you can say, "errm.... Bob the Magnificent?". Bob the Magnificent is the first practice hero in the TRPG2 tutorials, and equivalent to the Hero.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Steel Ersatz Man on September 25, 2010, 11:43:27 AM
Wow, I never even new that Craig said that it was a character we knew. Wow, I thought it was a new character...

Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on September 25, 2010, 11:45:02 AM
not any more, I just looked at it, and I really didn't think of it at all.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: ArtDrake on September 25, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
Methinks David.

KZ, I'm stealing the word for that sentence only because it works so well.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: bugfartboy on September 25, 2010, 01:11:56 PM
But David was the most talented SCANNER. And he didn't fight persay so he can't be a veteran of the Shadow War.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: ArtDrake on September 26, 2010, 03:44:47 PM
Who do you think it is? No-longer-Gamlin' Jack?
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: bugfartboy on September 26, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
As I said, the Nameless One may be the TRPG2 Hero. He/she would be a Vetean of the Shadow War.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: ArtDrake on September 27, 2010, 02:59:57 PM
Nameless One was called an 'old codger'. Do you call a woman that?
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: bugfartboy on September 27, 2010, 09:23:37 PM
If someone was really trying to insult them. And maybe for the sake of realism, the nameless one was given a gender for the sake of making the game more realistic.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: ArtDrake on September 28, 2010, 05:51:11 PM
Nah, that would imply that the Hero was male. I don't believe Craig would do that.

And Griffin wasn't trying to insult Nameless One in the scene.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Idozen Cair on December 06, 2010, 02:34:19 AM
Quote from: KZ on July 25, 2010, 10:36:27 AM
It does boil down to definitions, but David certainly participated during the Shadow Wars, as he was, effectively, used to break through the Spriggat obfuscation (at least, that is the implication), and he was quite alive and well during the last couple of years of the war, staying at the Psy Academy. Methinks he qualifies (especially as one of the definitions of a veteran is: "a person who has served in the armed forces ", which David certainly did, though, as noted above, not on his own accord).
Well, wouldn't David be to young to be the Nameless One? Some of the people also said that Anya and Guy are too young to be the Nameless One, so David fails to be the Nameless One even more utterly, won't him?
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: bugfartboy on December 06, 2010, 07:36:15 AM
Though, honestly, we don't know how far into the future the game is from TRPG2.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: Idozen Cair on December 06, 2010, 08:27:37 AM
Some people in the forum said it was 20 years or something of the sort.
Title: Re: Nameless One And Hero
Post by: bugfartboy on December 28, 2010, 10:28:31 PM
Please fix your double post. Sorry if I seem to be nagging.