We need to put new ways to get information from the people other than reading minds and asking
Slightly pointless; why would you need to force something out of them if you can read their mind.
Oh, and correct your double post.
I think that we already can force info out of them.
because sometimes their mind is blocked where u cant read it and i mean like hitting them or threating them more or beable to hurt there loved ones
When their mind is blocked, you need to gain more aptitude.
what if u want the info quicker than that?
You wait and gain aptitude, because most likely forcing info out of the person will cause you not to be able to do some kind of side-quest, or will get you into a fight you weren't prepared for.
thats the point
Not being able to do a side-quest or getting into a fight you were unprepared for?
yes it makes the game harder because if ur not ready yourll lose
I don't think you understood what I mean, what I meant was: being clever in TSoG gets you farther than being powerful... so far.
yes i agree but there are people that probably like to be more powerful than clever i would prefer clever over power any day
Exactly, that's why you should wait to upgrade your Personality and Aptitude, to be more clever than powerful.
but what about the people who would prefer power over clever?
Aptitude is what you use to get information from the mind, while Personality is how you get information from the willing.
Is there another way to get information?
There are ways to achieve your ends other than mind reading, like in the Mahboob side quest. However, both the options for Scanning and other ways of gaining information are per quest, not a move. Both have already been implemented by Craig in TsoG.
Quote from: MikeW781 on July 23, 2010, 06:03:03 PM
There are ways to achieve your ends other than mind reading, like in the Mahboob side quest. However, both the options for Scanning and other ways of gaining information are per quest, not a move. Both have already been implemented by Craig in TsoG.
Scanning (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Scan) and Misdirection (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Misdirection) are two ways to get information with the mind.
Quote from: im2smart4u on July 23, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: MikeW781 on July 23, 2010, 06:03:03 PM
There are ways to achieve your ends other than mind reading, like in the Mahboob side quest. However, both the options for Scanning and other ways of gaining information are per quest, not a move. Both have already been implemented by Craig in TsoG.
Scanning (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Scan) and Misdirection (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Misdirection) are two ways to get information with the mind.
Misdirection is planting false ideas, not getting information. By "other ways of getting information" I meant physical means like fallenangelvlad was talking about: Threatening, force, stealing notes, reading diaries, etc. I probably should have been more specific.
Do you happen to mean blackmail?
The Hero used misdirection to read read letters. It is a technique used to distract people, so the user can investigate personal items.
"Threatening" and "Blackmail" would require personality to pull it off.
Threatening and blackmail... I like it. I think that personality would have a lot to do with it, but maybe psy power should have an effect too. Talking scary will only get you so far. You need to also be able to convince whoever you are trying to blackmail that you can hurt them.
A demonstration of power like elemental blasting something or using an elemental area attack to destroy simultaneously some stuff could also be used.
This could be used either to scare somebody to tell us what we want (threatening & blackmail areas) or to impress someone with our power, perhaps to show that we are capable of doing some side quest
I think those techniques can certainly be an option in the game, though I think that using them should have, like other plot-related actions (e.g. what to do with the crowd that's chasing Duvalier when he tries to rescue his parents), certain effects later on in the game. But I agree that widening the scope for actions, giving the player morally ambiguous choices is an interesting thing to add. Gives more flexibility and does allow room for more play-throughs. I certainly can see that easily being implemented in small side-quests or NPC dialogue.
Can't you use mind blast on a person in Mission 4?
Yes, but it didn't really do anything... the person lived, and you still needed Luca to save you....
But, the mission is incomplete