I don't know whether or not Craig planned this, but it seems that each character has their own problems. By problems, I mean that they have things outside the Resistance and Cult that is still bothering them. For example: Griffin still has problems with his parents. This idea is that over the course of the game, each character will their own problems solved by the Hero. Perhaps, he will get a special bonus afterwards. Some examples of these missions would be:
Griffin: Griffin and his parents aren't really talking to each other, The Hero and Griffin will have to go save Griffin's parents because the Cult abducts them. Once you save them, Griffin will make up with his parents and he will be only focused on the mission.
Rahel: Rahel had some trouble back in Rubat, so when Rahel and The Hero go to Rubat she will confront the guy she was supposed to marry. However, the clan could be mad at Rahel and want to apprehend her. This would not only be a cool mission but you could get closer to Rahel...
Arman: Arman just ran away from the order of the black rose, and we have already dealt with Al'al. It is possible that, Arman first side quest was his Character Themed Side-Quest but anything is possible.
Set: Set doesn't have a Backbone, so there could be a mission where sets learns to stand up for himself and take a leadership role. This could involve a lot of things as devolping a backbone might aquire a lot of thing.
Luca: Luca doesn't know much about her past, in one of the later missions Luca could remember what happened (or a fragment of it) and want to go search for it. This mission would probably involve a lot of sprits.
Malis: Malis might need help with her shipments of spices into Rainville until they are attacked by looters and maybe even shadowlings. Her shipments would arrive by boat so it could bring back everyone favourite boat battles?
Icon is my vote on this matter.
that sounds good.
I like your ideas. I really hope Craig takes the time to put some of them in the game (if they aren't in there already).
How about a thumbs up as your post icon if you like it, thumbs down if you don't.
Here you go then
I like that idea.
As the story goes on, I am sure that more of each character's stories will be told in more details. This will give the Hero a chance to help his teammates bit by bit. I don't think a major personal problem should be resolved in one side quest, because it seems too impersonal. I would perfer that Giffin's and Rahel's issues be solved in the main plot to make a better story. Protecting Malis's shipments would make a good side quest, but she ask for the Resistance to protect her caravan. That means that she trades my land.
Malis could easily hire a boat with the amount of money she makes with her spices. With Griffin and Rahel, my one concern is that: how is Craig going to incorporate Griffin's Parents and Rahel's To be Husband in the main story. They have nothing to do with the Main Story and I don't see how they could be incorporated.
A)It has already been established that Malis uses caravans (not boats). If you don't like it, then ask Craig to change caravans to boats.
B)Since Griffin's parents are anti-psy Senators, I am sure they some place in the story.
C)I thank Rahel's Rubat past will come up when the Hero asks help from the clan's chief.
Then why vote no?
Quote from: Bugfartboy on October 04, 2010, 07:41:29 PM
Then why vote no?
I just rather character develop not be secondary in side quests, but instead it should be a major focus in the main story line.
It could still be a yes seeing as some may be main and others side. I think Malis and her shipments wouldn't need to be main would they?
Quote from: Bugfartboy on October 04, 2010, 08:36:12 PM
It could still be a yes seeing as some may be main and others side. I think Malis and her shipments wouldn't need to be main would they?
I was okay with the Malis side quest as long as it doesn't conflict with what she says.
I find it funny that the people who the push for the creation of more side quests won't play any of them, because they won't pay when the time comes.
I would pay if I could but I can't so I shan't. But I do like the idea of a couple character enriching sidequests.
And (hopefully) we represent the majority of users, of whom a certain percentage will buy the full game.
Quote from: Duckling on October 04, 2010, 09:10:04 PM
And (hopefully) we represent the majority of users, of whom a certain percentage will buy the full game.
Based on the discussions about TPA2, I doubt it.
I didn't want to buy TPA2 because there wasn't enough story in it to keep my interests. TSoG doesn't seem to have that issue.
QuoteAs the story goes on, I am sure that more of each character's stories will be told in more details. This will give the Hero a chance to help his teammates bit by bit. I don't think a major personal problem should be resolved in one side quest, because it seems too impersonal. I would perfer that Giffin's and Rahel's issues be solved in the main plot to make a better story.
I think that while character development will be part of the main story, some character development should occur only if the player investigates more into characters, does them favors, etc. For example, there is plenty of character development of Arman through the main story as you play, but you learn more about him if you play his side quest.
Arman has his story told through side quests because he is outsider to Ravinale's political system. Unlike Arman, Griffin and Rahel's history is very linked to the Cult's actions. Griffin is the son of anti-psy senators and a former member of the guards. Rahel is learned to be a tactician in a Ravinale academy and her love was killed by the enemy's general. Griffin and Rahel much more involved in the main story then the rest of the teammates.
I done arguing with you people. Just continue to suggest bad ideas, so Craig and ignore them.
Quote from: im2smart4u on October 06, 2010, 11:51:36 PM
Arman has his story told through side quests because he is outsider to Ravinale's political system. Unlike Arman, Griffin and Rahel's history is very linked to the Cult's actions. Griffin is the son of anti-psy senators and a former member of the guards. Rahel is learned to be a tactician in a Ravinale academy and her love was killed by the enemy's general. Griffin and Rahel much more involved in the main story then the rest of the teammates.
I done arguing with you people. Just continue to suggest bad ideas, so Craig and ignore them.
Wow. That is just cold. But, I do agree with you to a certain degree, if what you're saying is we can't make side-quests out of those stories, then I only say that you are right up to the point that we can get creative. But overall, you're right... once again, we can't make a side-quest out of Griffin's family troubles without making it cliche, and we can't bring back the dead insofar... but for some reason, we can't ask Luca to do it.
Quote from: im2smart4u on October 06, 2010, 11:51:36 PM
Arman has his story told through side quests because he is outsider to Ravinale's political system. Unlike Arman, Griffin and Rahel's history is very linked to the Cult's actions. Griffin is the son of anti-psy senators and a former member of the guards. Rahel is learned to be a tactician in a Ravinale academy and her love was killed by the enemy's general. Griffin and Rahel much more involved in the main story then the rest of the teammates.
I done arguing with you people. Just continue to suggest bad ideas, so Craig and ignore them.
What makes you so smart that all your ideas and opinions are always the correct ones. How do you know this is a bad idea? (from your perspective it is) Has Craig commented on it and said it was a bad idea? No! Besides, how do you know what Craig thinks is a good or is not a good idea? Are you Craig! No, your not. Stop acting like you are. Also, if we are suggesting bad ideas when why don't you suggest some good ideas (if your so smart!)
On Topic: (My Idea for) Rahel's Side-Quest is not about what happened to Darime, but it is about her relations with the Rubat clan. I don't see how it affects the main story because how is the chief gong to know if Rahel is in your party if they aren't following you around? Besides, she changed her named and she is older, I don't think they will be able to recognize her right of the bat.
Nope. But maybe Rahel could learn through the grapevine that a very close family member is deathly sick and delusional wanting to see her. Then, filled with sadness and guilt, she could go see that person with the rest of the team and the team could get captured. Or attacked by a few vengeful Rubat clansmen. What think you?