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Poll
Question: How much was Pakistan involved?
Option 1: They actually did it all. votes: 0
Option 2: Definitely played a major role. votes: 2
Option 3: might've helped a bit... votes: 5
Option 4: Totally USA. votes: 0
Option 5: They protected Osama. votes: 3
Title: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on May 06, 2011, 07:20:00 PM
I want to see what you think, Pakistan is denying everything, and going with option four, but what do you think as informed people?
Title: Re: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: Steelfist on May 07, 2011, 05:24:51 AM
He was living in a secure complex, in - what was it - the largest house? Around a kilometre away from a military academy?

They had a hand in it, almost certainly.
Title: Re: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on May 07, 2011, 09:26:43 AM
and there were no alarms raised, he was never protected, and us satellite imagery shows no guards ever around the complex, if he was protected then why in such a zone did nobody come to his aid?
Title: Re: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: bugfartboy on May 07, 2011, 10:19:42 AM
To avoid getting on people's bad side. If they were aware that Osama was right next door (figuratively) and didn't do anything about it, that's pushing it. But if they were to send him aid, they'd brand themselves.
Title: Re: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: SmartyPants on May 10, 2011, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: The Holy namelesskitty on May 07, 2011, 09:26:43 AMand there were no alarms raised, he was never protected, and us satellite imagery shows no guards ever around the complex, if he was protected then why in such a zone did nobody come to his aid?
Do you think that when the CIA hid Soviet deserters, they told all the local military men and police to protect him?  I hope you don't think that because that would be stupid.  When you want to hide someone, it is best to tell as few people as possible.  The Pakistan's ISI knew that when they were hiding Osama.

Pakistan is playing both sides.  They are doing just enough against Al Qaeda to get billions of dollars in aid from America, while they are doing just enough for Al Qaeda to have a proxy force against thier archrival, India.
Title: Re: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: Dean_Lukas on May 12, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
There was most likely a "left hand doesn't know what the right one is doing" scenario. The president might not have known, but some of those in the ISI did.

Or that's what I think. Incompetence rather than intentional.
Title: Re: Pakistan and Osama's death
Post by: ArtDrake on May 15, 2011, 09:36:24 PM
I do not believe that Pakistan played any part in hiding bin Laden.