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Title: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Steel Ersatz Man on March 21, 2010, 02:47:29 PM
Discussion about paying for Telepath games.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Zackirus on March 21, 2010, 02:57:12 PM
Well I have bad news (for you people who don't have credits cards or parents who are willing to pay) Craig has decided to make Telepath servants of God a game that you must buy, although the demo will surely end up on top gaming sites like Newgrounds and Kongregate
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Zhampir on March 21, 2010, 03:01:51 PM
Craig mentioned he might be taking the demo down soon.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: SmartyPants on March 21, 2010, 03:04:58 PM
Yes for TSoG, no for TPA2.
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Post by: Presentiment on March 21, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Once I get a credit card...I'll buy it.

If I'm still interested by the time I get one.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: SmartyPants on March 21, 2010, 05:01:42 PM
For me, it depends on what the price is.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Zackirus on March 21, 2010, 05:02:31 PM
Craig mentioned he might be taking the demo down soon.

Whattt!!?!!! He needs people like us to look through the finshed product and make sure it has no glicthes, it works properly and stuff like that!

For me, it depends on what the price is.

If it is between 10-25 I might ask my parents to get it for me, but if its higher than no way
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: SmartyPants on March 21, 2010, 05:04:08 PM
Craig mentioned he might be taking the demo down soon.

Whattt!!?!!! He needs people like us to look through the finshed product and make sure it has no glicthes, it works properly and stuff like that!
It is a little early to shut down the demo, unless he had people to test out the game.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Zackirus on March 21, 2010, 05:06:07 PM
Craig mentioned he might be taking the demo down soon.

Whattt!!?!!! He needs people like us to look through the finshed product and make sure it has no glicthes, it works properly and stuff like that!
It is a little early to shut down the demo, unless he had people to test out the game.

WE! are the people who test out the Game for him!
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: KZ on March 21, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
Craig did say indeed that TSoG, like TPA2 will be a buy-only game.
From what I understand from his comments, at some point, relatively soon, he'll stop undpating the public demo, but I'll be very surprised if that is actually taken down- it probably wouldn't be simply updated, that's all.

Well, Zackirus, it's the same problem all the time, when you are trying to sell a product, in this case- a game, and you have unknown strangers testing it- some may not be very honest and may leak the game elsewhere, pose it as their own work (and try selling it), or simply give it online for free. I am sure Craig will keep it open for as long as possible, but there was this form of feedback from many people which Craig mentioned on the forums: that after playing 90% of the game for free, they didn't feel like buying the whole thing. So, the public demo will probably be open to the same degree as the official free TPA2 demo.

Incidnetally, im2smart4u, did you buy TPA2 in the end?
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Presentiment on March 21, 2010, 06:13:42 PM
As long as he doesn't leak the source code/goes for a patent he should be protected from IR crime.

And if he doesn't keep up the updating, it will take far longer to do bug testing as he doesn't have the wide audience testing out the whole game as he would with continuing updates.

Also, if he'd stopped updates, I'd lose interest, and forget about the game, and even if I had a credit card unlikely to buy it.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: CraigStern on March 22, 2010, 09:07:53 AM
I'm not going to take down the TSoG demo--what I'm planning to do is transition to a downloadable demo instead of an in-browser one.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Presentiment on March 23, 2010, 07:39:36 PM
Which means updates will end?
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Post by: SmartyPants on March 23, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
Incidnetally, im2smart4u, did you buy TPA2 in the end?
No.  For something that lacks story, it costed too much.  Even for my xbox, if games doesn't have a good, fulfilling story, I won't buy it.


Depending on the price, I might buy or not buy TSoG.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: CraigStern on March 24, 2010, 08:23:14 PM
Which means updates will end?

Nope.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Steel Ersatz Man on March 25, 2010, 04:06:26 AM
Are the games that you have to pay for monthly payment or one payment?
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: CraigStern on March 25, 2010, 05:57:42 AM
Just one payment, one time, and you own it forever. ;)
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Steel Ersatz Man on March 25, 2010, 06:21:58 AM
I'll try to get my parents to buy it for me. But, I don't think it will happen.  :'(
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Post by: Tastidian on July 01, 2010, 09:56:57 PM
I'll try to get my parents to buy it for me. But, I don't think it will happen.  :'(

Most parents wont probably buy it unless it says https on the address bar
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Bromtaghon on July 01, 2010, 11:10:47 PM
My parents would never buy it for me.  I'd have to arrange a birthday gift from someone with a credit card...
But I'll keep testing the demo and contributing, and lurk around the Forum Games until he starts working on TRPG4, or whatever he chooses next.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on July 02, 2010, 12:48:18 AM
I can convince my mom to buy some things most parents wont buy. Not trying to say anything but has anyone tried being nice or behaved maybe obedient even sucking up to their parents it works notably well. Thats what I do the being nice part.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Bromtaghon on July 02, 2010, 08:20:53 AM
I have strict parents.  They probably wouldn't buy it.  And I'm obedient and nice and behaved, although I've never tried sucking up since I doubt they'd fall for it.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Duskling on July 03, 2010, 09:00:43 PM
[...] I've never tried sucking up since I doubt they'd fall for it.
Have you tried yet? Do your chores extra nicely, do extra homework, etc., and then suck up, try once, if they say "yes"... totally worth it.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Bromtaghon on July 03, 2010, 10:47:29 PM
...You are aware that it's summer, right? For me, at least, school ended a few weeks ago.  And I don't have chores.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on July 05, 2010, 12:49:47 AM
...You are aware that it's summer, right? For me, at least, school ended a few weeks ago.  And I don't have chores.

Than get some ask to do the dishes once in a while then you're parents will ask why your doing all this than you tell them what you want. At the max give it w week.

Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on July 28, 2010, 07:52:48 PM
There is no way that my parents will let me buy it, they think that U already spend too much time online, but I probably do...
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on July 28, 2010, 10:17:56 PM
Me too thats why I have glasses. All the more reason not to buy it.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on July 29, 2010, 04:19:34 PM
looking at you computer really makes you need glasses? that is totally scary, even more so because I have 20/20 vision.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on July 30, 2010, 02:00:37 PM
Actually its because I stare at it at such a close range.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on July 30, 2010, 02:24:40 PM
My parents are so strict. They're okay with playing online if it's free. But the second I mention the word "Payment" they give me the look. I don't think I'm gonna be able to purchase TSoG or TPA2. Sometimes I just need to take a breath to get a "No". I'm gonna try to convince them though.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Cypher on July 30, 2010, 11:40:56 PM
Don't you get pocket money?
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on July 31, 2010, 09:00:50 AM
Yeah. I can afford it. My rents just won't use their credit cards to make the purchase.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on July 31, 2010, 10:36:22 PM
Believe me its hard to get almost all parents to buy anything.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on July 31, 2010, 10:42:16 PM
I already know that. Time to pull out the fake parenting books again.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 01, 2010, 07:24:23 AM
I love that idea, I am totally going to use that.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 01, 2010, 09:57:11 AM
Haha. Now if only bugfartboy had fake parenting books. Anyone know where to get them?
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on August 01, 2010, 12:28:59 PM
I think you can just make one. But you'll need all the makings of a real book just make a fake page.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 02, 2010, 09:50:53 AM
excellent idea, but you'll need to get the layout exactly the same or they won't believe it.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on August 02, 2010, 11:40:58 PM
You make me laugh kitty when it comes to manipulation its my game.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 03, 2010, 04:55:32 AM
Great! Make one and send me the layout?
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Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 03, 2010, 06:55:43 AM
please do, I totally want that.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 03, 2010, 11:21:51 AM
If I got that and my parents believed it, I would love whoever sent it to me forever!!!
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on August 03, 2010, 01:53:34 PM
First I would need to find a good parenting book online.

Wait exactly what do you want a made up part of an actual book or one online. Be specific and give me an idea of what you want me to say.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 03, 2010, 04:49:24 PM
Online. Say like umm... Something about saying no to your child too much can seriously affect your relationship with them. Instead, make small agreements such as using your credit card to buy a game from online!
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on August 03, 2010, 11:01:28 PM
Okay I might not get them to you for awhile then again so is the game. When will I get them to you unknown. Hey namelesskitty what about you I need to know what to use for manipulation for your parents.  They need to be exact and has to be a part in which they are easy to manipulate.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Dorgon 5000 on August 04, 2010, 12:47:13 AM
My parents let me buy almost any games (but I have to pay myself). If your parents are that strict, you should look for pirate copies. I usally hate them, but if you have that strict parents, you have the right to that.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 04, 2010, 05:09:03 AM
Zaron will not resort to criminal activities. He was raised better than that.
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Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 04, 2010, 08:59:23 AM
yeah, I'm not gonna do that.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on August 04, 2010, 12:32:01 PM
Are you still goint to get that fake book thing?
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Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 04, 2010, 03:35:23 PM
that's not technically criminal , just unethical so count me in.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 04, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
Yep. I just need to find one.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: Tastidian on August 04, 2010, 08:00:13 PM
Is this ok to use. http://www.publicbookshelf.com/parenting/foster-care/certifications-requirements
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 04, 2010, 08:05:40 PM
I'm not sure. I havn't read it all the way through. It might, though I'm not a foster kid. But that's just me.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 04, 2010, 08:11:37 PM
Please make one that pertains to non-foster children.
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Post by: bugfartboy on August 04, 2010, 08:13:08 PM
How do you know that he/she made it?
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Post by: Tastidian on August 04, 2010, 08:19:15 PM
Ops wrong link. http://2020ok.com/20.htm If anything here specific would help. Or just find me a book that would work on your parents.

How do you know that he/she made it?

I didn't.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 04, 2010, 08:22:31 PM
I don't know. I'm getting tired. I'll look at it in the morning. But for now, maybe we need to stop posting and go to PMs so we don't get in trouble for getting off topic. Just in case Craig/Magnilus does come back soon.
Title: Re: To Pay Or Not To Pay?
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on August 04, 2010, 08:24:55 PM
Yeah pms from now on coint me in on them too.