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Title: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on August 19, 2010, 10:22:38 AM
On the TSoG Flyer (http://www.sinisterdesign.net/Downloads/TSoGFlyer.pdf), the on of the middle pictures is what looks like a ghost. Who is it? Is he the recruitable character Craig mentioned would come up? Discuss.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on August 19, 2010, 02:38:59 PM
When I first saw him, I thought he was Iblis (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Iblis) outside his stone body.  After thinking about it, he is probably someone complely diffrent.  He doesn't look scary enough to be a boss or an enemy.
(http://s2.postimage.org/sjya217o/Not_Darime.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: mezzoforte on August 19, 2010, 03:16:37 PM
Could it have been an older drawing of (a male) Luca?

Another guess, doesn't it look like Duvalier's dad a bit?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on August 19, 2010, 06:05:47 PM
Duvalier's dad is alive and well at the moment, but it may be a possibility later on.

I was thinking it might be the ghost of a tomb raider found in the third Crypt, maybe? He was trying to find and loot some treasures, but was killed by the Crypts guardians.

Or maybe a ghost bandit, also found in Crypt 3, but with a different story? He could have just been a lost bandit who stumbled upon the Crypt and died there.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on August 19, 2010, 06:48:47 PM
Perhaps it's Fizooz (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Fizooz). I haven't played in a while, so I'm sorry if he already has a portrait.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on August 19, 2010, 06:51:03 PM
Perhaps it's Fizooz (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Fizooz). I haven't played in a while, so I'm sorry if he already has a portrait.
I think Fizooz would have had a more confused portrait, less smug. Although he does look like he's trying to put his finger on something, so it's also possible.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on August 19, 2010, 06:56:57 PM
Another guess, doesn't it look like Duvalier's dad a bit?
This was my immeadiate guess
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Cypher on August 20, 2010, 12:20:54 AM
I think it's someone totally new: he has a ghost rose in his hand and an arrogant grin on his face.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Zhampir on August 20, 2010, 03:44:07 AM
looks like a priest of Yawah from the intro movie...
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on August 20, 2010, 05:14:32 AM
What if is the (dead) leader of the order of the black rose?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: mezzoforte on August 20, 2010, 07:59:09 PM
What if is the (dead) leader of the order of the black rose?

Okay, I changed my guess!  I'm with you on this....
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on August 22, 2010, 04:13:48 PM
Poll Added. Be careful- I can't allow people to change their votes if I use the "Add A Poll" button. If you have a theory not listed, submit it in this thread or PM me, and I'll add it.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Steelfist on August 23, 2010, 05:19:26 PM
Not a clue. In all honesty, it's probably just a random ghost.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on August 23, 2010, 05:22:57 PM
The thing is, why would it have a portrait seperate from other ghosts if it was just a random ghost? It has to have some significance, or it wouldn't have its own portrait and be in the Flyer.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Steelfist on August 23, 2010, 05:39:25 PM
Possibly, it has some significance, but I cannot think of any.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on August 23, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
He just looks too rugged to be Yawah or one of Yawah's priests, in my opinion. I voted that it was the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, because of the rose and the ruggedly handsome, but decietful look on his face.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: ArtDrake on August 23, 2010, 07:24:20 PM
Maybe it's the ghost boss guarding Crypt 3...?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on August 24, 2010, 07:17:54 AM
^^Added to the poll^^
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on August 31, 2010, 06:36:36 AM
Well, if it's a ghost, it could always be Darime- the previous leader of the Resistance.
It's also not clear if that's a supporter of resistance or not- the portraits are a bit of a mix-and-mash between the two.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on August 31, 2010, 06:35:18 PM
Added Darime to the poll. Good idea, it certainly makes sense given that Craig created the character, and a relationship with Rahel.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on August 31, 2010, 07:33:47 PM
Maybe Yawah acually is just a really powerful spirit convincing others that he is a god?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Cypher on September 01, 2010, 12:18:04 AM
I hope it's more than that...
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on September 01, 2010, 04:49:09 AM
Added Darim to the poll. Good idea, it certainly makes sense given that Craig created the character, and a relationship with Rahel.
You have a typo: it's spelled Darime (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Darime).
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 01, 2010, 08:56:36 AM
What would be interesting is to also guess whether this ghost will be an ally or an enemy? Thoughts on that, along with identity, will be interesting to hear, folks!

Why not Darime? He can certainly create a complex love triangle, or simply show the difficulty of building future relationships when the past, literally, hasn't been lain to rest!
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on September 01, 2010, 10:45:23 AM
Why is the world is everyone thinking that it is the dead leader of the Black Rose?  Is the ghost holding a knife or wearing a cloak?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 01, 2010, 10:59:32 AM
I wondered that too.
And who do you think it is (apart from Iblis escaping the statue)?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on September 01, 2010, 01:08:05 PM
I wondered that too.
And who do you think it is (apart from Iblis escaping the statue)?
I don't think anyone will be able to guess it right.  I went with Random Ghost.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on September 01, 2010, 01:53:07 PM
Why is the world is everyone thinking that it is the dead leader of the Black Rose?  Is the ghost holding a knife or wearing a cloak?
Because he seems to have a (dark?) rose on his hand. At least that was my reason.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on September 01, 2010, 03:04:15 PM
Added Darim to the poll. Good idea, it certainly makes sense given that Craig created the character, and a relationship with Rahel.
You have a typo: it's spelled Darime (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Darime).
My bad. Fixed.

Why is the world is everyone thinking that it is the dead leader of the Black Rose?  Is the ghost holding a knife or wearing a cloak?
I agree. The dead leader of the black rose makes no sense.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 01, 2010, 04:33:55 PM
Apart from the rose, I don't really see any connection to the order of the Black Rose. However, let's push the Darime idea- this rose can be a symbol for the romantic relationship between Rahel and Darime, and it was so important to him (the relationship) that he stayed behind for her. One can come up with many reasons as to why he didn't come back as yet (say, he forgot a lot of stuff, like the way back to Ravinale, and by the time he got there, the resistance changed its HQ). Not that I seriously believe in this theory, to be honest, but it can be a neat explanation.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Tastidian on September 02, 2010, 07:33:08 PM
Apart from the rose, I don't really see any connection to the order of the Black Rose. However, let's push the Darime idea- this rose can be a symbol for the romantic relationship between Rahel and Darime, and it was so important to him (the relationship) that he stayed behind for her. One can come up with many reasons as to why he didn't come back as yet (say, he forgot a lot of stuff, like the way back to Ravinale, and by the time he got there, the resistance changed its HQ). Not that I seriously believe in this theory, to be honest, but it can be a neat explanation.
I would change mine but dew to the fact that I can't well the rest explains itself.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on September 03, 2010, 02:26:12 PM
Poll Added. Be careful- I can't allow people to change their votes if I use the "Add A Poll" button. If you have a theory not listed, submit it in this thread or PM me, and I'll add it.
I think that I can check the box that allows people to change their votes, in case you're interested.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 03, 2010, 02:53:07 PM
Poll Added. Be careful- I can't allow people to change their votes if I use the "Add A Poll" button. If you have a theory not listed, submit it in this thread or PM me, and I'll add it.
I think that I can check the box that allows people to change their votes, in case you're interested.
Yep, that's perfectly doable.

On topic- can anyone think of another explanation for the rose in the ghost's hand?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on September 03, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
Yes, adding a "Change Vote" option would be great. Please do, thank-you very much.

As for the rose, there is a chance that it is a random ghost who stayed behind for a lover and who's background will be new, Duvaliers dad (who is trying to win back his wife after an arguement over Yawah), the ex-lover of any single female character, or maybe the old leader of the black rose. As much as I dislike the idea, that does offer some proff, but I don't believe its enough.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 03, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
Yes, adding a "Change Vote" option would be great. Please do, thank-you very much.
Done!

Interesting- this does fit with the idea of that being Darime. But apart from killer and romantic associations, any other original suggestions? (Maybe he was a botanist, or a herbalist and used to work at the Psy Academy, selling Focus Pills to students, who knows?)
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on September 03, 2010, 05:59:03 PM
I tried to zoom in the face and I it seems that this ghost has a monocle in his right eye. I know that a monocle was used only by high class people, so perhaps he was somebody that Baz knew (or even in Baz's family).

Nevertheless, from the look on his face I would say that if he turns out to be the dead leader of the Black Rose it's quite fitting, even if the rose on his hand is the strongest argument in favour of it.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on September 03, 2010, 08:02:32 PM
Nevertheless, from the look on his face I would say that if he turns out to be the dead leader of the Black Rose it's quite fitting, even if the rose on his hand is the strongest argument in favour of it.
He appears to be very sophisticated, while Al'al and Arman looked rugged.  The spirit doesn't look like the leader of a group of rugged assassins.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Tastidian on September 03, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
He probably doesn't look rugged because he is the leader. He probably only does the up most important missions.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 04, 2010, 05:11:17 AM
I get the impression that this ghost comes from an aristocratic background- what with the pattern on the dress, the moustache, the rose. Does anyone else get the impression?
There is something refined about this man.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on September 04, 2010, 09:04:45 AM
I get the impression that this ghost comes from an aristocratic background- what with the pattern on the dress, the moustache, the rose. Does anyone else get the impression?
There is something refined about this man.
That is impression I got which is why I don't think he is the leader of a group of rugged assassins.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on September 04, 2010, 10:26:15 AM
He probably doesn't look rugged because he is the leader. He probably only does the up most important missions.
I still disagree with the idea of being the black rose's ex-leader, but this is a valid point. The assassins don't need to look sophisticated, but the leader would need a good image to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on September 04, 2010, 11:40:33 AM
He probably doesn't look rugged because he is the leader. He probably only does the up most important missions.
I still disagree with the idea of being the black rose's ex-leader, but this is a valid point. The assassins don't need to look sophisticated, but the leader would need a good image to be taken seriously.
In criminal organiztions, a person makes thier way up the ladder as a boss.  That means that the leader was a rugged assassin just like everyone else.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 04, 2010, 11:43:35 AM
Indeed, not everyone has to be charming and all to head an organization- sometimes the "big guys" do look like the biggest and meanest thugs of the bunch.
If this ghost in his former life dabbed in things criminal, he'd be into blackmail or sophisticated/elegant scams, methinks.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on September 04, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
Just a thought here, but could it be Fife? Perhaps the Cult found out of his support of the Resistance, stormed his home, and killed him as a sacrifice, so he then comes back as a Spirit. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on September 04, 2010, 02:07:33 PM
That might be possible. That would mean that his paranoia ended out helping the Resistance. Hmm.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: KZ on September 04, 2010, 04:04:01 PM
I doubt it is Fife, as Fife was supposed to be a merchant who lived in a house infested by rodents- quite worse than the "storage shed" HQ these days- hence it's unlikely that such a "refined" individual would reside in such a house nor would a merchant likely to have such a finesse, methinks.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on September 04, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
Mmm... we don't know if this spirit is found in Baz's basement...
Nevertheless, I agree that the spirit looks like being high class.
In my opinion, if the Order of the Black Rose is a well known and successful organization, I assume that they have a good money income. In that case, it is possible that the leaders may become wealthy enough to have a fa├žade life as one of the members of the high class in Ravinale.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Idozen Cair on January 01, 2011, 08:13:20 AM
Darime. Rahel describes him as being funny, warm, and things like that, not a very stern person who justs barks out commands. But I think he looks too sinister for Darime, but I think Darime's the best choice.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: cyso on January 02, 2011, 06:12:41 PM
For some odd reason, he sort of reminds me of Ali the Incorrigible. Maybe it's the sinister grin.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Idozen Cair on January 08, 2011, 08:39:31 AM
I don't understand what got the people to think that he would be the dead leader of Black Rose.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: ArtDrake on January 08, 2011, 09:09:27 AM
The rose.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: HeadShot on January 17, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
Probbaly the Dead Leader of the Order of the Black Rose.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 17, 2011, 06:02:49 PM
Really? The guy who looks like a sophisticated romantic was the head of an order of ruthless assassins? Really?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 17, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 17, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Clearly "changing personalities" in is not the style of the Black Rose.  Arman, Al'al, and Duvalier never used stealth or disguises to kill their enemies.  All the Black Rose assassins relied on their speed and skill with a knife to dispatch thier enemies.

How do you not see the huge stretch in logic?  Because the spirit holds a rose, he must be the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, since everyone knows that all assassins like to carry roses to identity themselves as assassins.  ::)
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Idozen Cair on January 17, 2011, 11:36:05 PM
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Clearly "changing personalities" in is not the style of the Black Rose.  Arman, Al'al, and Duvalier never used stealth or disguises to kill their enemies.  All the Black Rose assassins relied on their speed and skill with a knife to dispatch thier enemies.

How do you not see the huge stretch in logic?  Because the spirit holds a rose, he must be the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, since everyone knows that all assassins like to carry roses to identity themselves as assassins.  ::)
Hm. I second that. You said exactly what I wanted to say, im2smart4u. Being the dead leader of the Black rose just beacuse he's holding a rose is just....just... ridiculous!
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 18, 2011, 06:02:02 AM
That being said, he must be a ghost bandit. :P I think he's Yawah. I see some sense in it.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on January 18, 2011, 12:24:47 PM
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Clearly "changing personalities" in is not the style of the Black Rose.  Arman, Al'al, and Duvalier never used stealth or disguises to kill their enemies.  All the Black Rose assassins relied on their speed and skill with a knife to dispatch thier enemies.

How do you not see the huge stretch in logic?  Because the spirit holds a rose, he must be the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, since everyone knows that all assassins like to carry roses to identity themselves as assassins.  ::)
Hm. I second that. You said exactly what I wanted to say, im2smart4u. Being the dead leader of the Black rose just beacuse he's holding a rose is just....just... ridiculous!
I was actually picturing it as a possibility because one would not expect the head of the order to look like a criminal. I was picturing a very wealthy man who employs assassins would have a sophisticated look about him, even though his assassins would undoubtably look like questionable figures. And yes, the rose is a big part of it, but it does make sense. Besides, why else would somebody be holding a rose in hand? The name of the Order is the only reference to any flower in the game.

As a PS- I don't agree with the idea; I just wanted to point out that it wasn't as silly as you two made it out to be.

Why is the world is everyone thinking that it is the dead leader of the Black Rose?  Is the ghost holding a knife or wearing a cloak?
I agree. The dead leader of the black rose makes no sense.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 18, 2011, 07:48:34 PM
I was actually picturing it as a possibility because one would not expect the head of the order to look like a criminal. I was picturing a very wealthy man who employs assassins would have a sophisticated look about him, even though his assassins would undoubtably look like questionable figures. And yes, the rose is a big part of it, but it does make sense.
So, your reasoning is that the portrait looks so unlike an assassin leader that it must be the leader of the Order of the Black Rose? That is silly reasoning.

Cygnus doesn't look anything like a shadowling, so no one would expect him to be a shadowling. That means he must be a shadowling.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on January 18, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
No, my reason was that while assassins have a rugged appearance, their employer might not.
Like, a mob boss looks like a business man, but his thugs look like thugs.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 18, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
Actually it makes some sense. Think about it from a different perspective: a rich man wants someone who betrayed him dead. So, he hires someone to kill them. And then that rich man needs another person killed. So he hires the same person. And then several more people need killed so the rich man starts hiring more people. Then eventually the word that this man has been pulling off assassinations near flawlessly, the rest of the underworld starts going to him to have people killed. And thus, the Order of the Black Rose was formed.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 18, 2011, 07:54:31 PM
Actually it makes some sense. Think about it from a different perspective: a rich man wants someone who betrayed him dead. So, he hires someone to kill them. And then that rich man needs another person killed. So he hires the same person. And then several more people need killed so the rich man starts hiring more people. Then eventually the word that this man has been pulling off assassinations near flawlessly, the rest of the underworld starts going to him to have people killed. And thus, the Order of the Black Rose was formed.
But that's an employer, not the leader, big difference.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 18, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
I see that I failed to explain myself thoroughly again. I meant that this guy was originally only the employer. But as he started to gain more fame in the underworld, he became the leader. He doesn't perform assassinations himself, but rather he sends people to do it. Then he gives the person he sent a cut of the money that the employer is paying. Does that make it clearer?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Idozen Cair on January 18, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
I don't care about other reasoning for the leader of the Black Rose. What I think is silly is that people consider him holding a rose to be relevant to him being leader of the Black Rose. Couldn't it be something more reasonable - something romantic, perhaps?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 19, 2011, 05:56:34 AM
Actually, I just think it's a random ghost now. And I was giving a scenario in which it could be the dead leader of the black rose.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 19, 2011, 08:25:10 AM
I see that I failed to explain myself thoroughly again. I meant that this guy was originally only the employer. But as he started to gain more fame in the underworld, he became the leader. He doesn't perform assassinations himself, but rather he sends people to do it. Then he gives the person he sent a cut of the money that the employer is paying. Does that make it clearer?
I really don't think it works that way, people don't make you their leader just because you employed them a certain number of times.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 19, 2011, 08:37:07 AM
*Dead Leader of the Black Rose  (He clearly doesn't look like the assassin type)
*Duvalier's Father (Alder (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Alder) is still alive)
*Ghost Bandit  (Looks as much a bandit as he looks like an assassin)
*Tomb Raider  (I don't think Lara Croft has died in the Telepath world)
*Fizooz  (The portrait doesnt look like a guy who would be held hostage)
*Priest of Yawah (I don't even know how someone could come to this conclussion)
*Random Ghost  (Of the terrible choices, this one is the best)
*Yawah  (He doesn't look very godly)
*Ghost Boss of Crypt 3 (He looks like he could be the poet-king Azur)
*Darime (The portrait doesn't look like someone Rahel would like or love)
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Steelfist on January 19, 2011, 10:39:47 AM
He looks positively sleazy, doesn't he? Maybe Craig is planning to put him into a future mission or side quest, as I don't think he fits any roles that we have seen.

So he might be significant, but we just haven't seen him yet. On the other hand, he's probably just another random ghost.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 19, 2011, 01:19:22 PM
*Random Ghost  (Of the terrible choices, this one is the best)
*Ghost Boss of Crypt 3 (He looks like he could be the poet-king Azur)
The only two choices that I see as reasonable.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 19, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
Yeah. I agree. Unless he's really Nelis disguised as a ghost! :o Duh Duhn Duhhhhnnnn!!!
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on January 19, 2011, 04:55:40 PM
I voted for Darime. I think there is no strong argument against him
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 19, 2011, 05:17:46 PM
I voted for Darime. I think there is no strong argument against him
(http://s2.postimage.org/sjya217o/Not_Darime.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
Do you really think Rahel would love an older, sinister looking man who carries a rose like a snobby aristocrat?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on January 19, 2011, 07:27:25 PM
Its true, he doesn't look like her type. But becoming a spirit does affect ones memory greatly, so his mannerisms could have changed. And the rose could symbolize romance.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 19, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
But still... with eyes like that, I don't think Rahel would care about his mannerisms in real life, in other words, he looks a bit suggestive, or like he's trying to make a deal or sweet talk someone somehow.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 19, 2011, 07:48:34 PM
I think he looks like he's snarling really. Look at him. His upper lip is pulled up and his eyes seem sorta angry or really focused.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 19, 2011, 08:23:00 PM
No, there's a slight smirk there... or else he's purring*.


*Generally, men purr when they see something they like, usually an attractive woman.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 19, 2011, 08:28:12 PM
I think most of us here know that. But I really think that's a snarl. But each man unto his own. :)
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 19, 2011, 08:36:37 PM
That is meant for those who didn't know. Now, it might be a rogue Black Rose member, using the rose as mockery of the organization, and dressing all fancy-like because he quit and had much money left, but that is conflicted with the fact that those who run away from the Black Rose generally hide and do not want to be noticed. :-\
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 19, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
*Ghost Boss of Crypt 3 (He looks like he could be the poet-king Azur)
What do you think about the possibility of portrait being of the third Crypt (http://telepath.wikia.com/wiki/Crypt_3)'s poet-king Azur?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 19, 2011, 09:33:11 PM
I don't know who the poet king Azur is. I looked at the wiki page link you provided. I don't know.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 19, 2011, 09:41:42 PM
I don't know who the poet king Azur is. I looked at the wiki page link you provided. I don't know.
We don't know anything about him except that his tomb is the third crypt.  I was just wondering if people thought the portrait looked anything like a poet-king.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 19, 2011, 09:54:53 PM
He looks like he might be but I don't know. Possibly. But I'm just gonna stick with a random ghost for now.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Duskling on January 19, 2011, 10:05:32 PM
I don't know who the poet king Azur is. I looked at the wiki page link you provided. I don't know.
We don't know anything about him except that his tomb is the third crypt.  I was just wondering if people thought the portrait looked anything like a poet-king.
Well... he does look smug... but smug looks are for riddle-makers... or maybe sarcastic poets?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 20, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
He looks like he might be but I don't know. Possibly. But I'm just gonna stick with a random ghost for now.
I will stick with Random Ghost too, but I also think it is reasonable to think that the portrait could be poet-king Azur,
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Zackirus on January 21, 2011, 05:45:04 AM
He looks like he might be but I don't know. Possibly. But I'm just gonna stick with a random ghost for now.
I will stick with Random Ghost too, but I also think it is reasonable to think that the portrait could be poet-king Azur,

Well the poet-king is already dead, so it could be him, I will go will random ghost for now though...
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: ArtDrake on January 22, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
Could someone fill me in on who Azur is, or whether it's on the wiki, or on an earlier page?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on January 22, 2011, 07:00:25 PM
Could someone fill me in on who Azur is, or whether it's on the wiki, or on an earlier page?
So far, we know he is the poet-king burried in the third Crypt.  We also know that the Librarian admires him.  Everything else would be speculation. 

Does everyone agree that the dead leader of the Black Rose is a ridiculous guess based off of nothing?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on January 22, 2011, 07:04:05 PM
I think that there is some but minimal reason for that guess.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Idozen Cair on January 23, 2011, 10:51:04 PM
I second you, Fyer.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on March 26, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
(http://s2.postimage.org/sjya217o/Not_Darime.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
Well at least can you tell us a bit about Rajav?
Rajav is a spirit who fancies himself something of a lady's man. I'll leave it at that for now.
Rajav is logical choice for this spirit protrait.

Dead Leader of the Black Rose is still a dumb choice.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on March 26, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
So you think we'd get another spirit teammate?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: ArtDrake on March 26, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
YES. This is most definitely Rajav, no doubt.

May I ask, im2smart4u, when it is that you put things in small font? Is is when it's something you don't want everyone to see, something you do want people to see, or something you would mutter in real life?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on March 26, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
So you think we'd get another spirit teammate?
It seems more likely then having a non-Gifted swordsman.  I would be disappointed to not get a Spearman though.

I write stuff small, because I want to say something without drawing too much attention from the important part of the post.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: bugfartboy on March 26, 2011, 03:39:05 PM
In my case, I have nothing against it.

I can do this too!! :)
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: ArtDrake on March 27, 2011, 10:23:23 AM
Who says the spirit isn't a spearman?
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on March 27, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
(http://s2.postimage.org/sjya217o/Not_Darime.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
Well at least can you tell us a bit about Rajav?
Rajav is a spirit who fancies himself something of a lady's man. I'll leave it at that for now.
Rajav is logical choice for this spirit protrait.
I think this is the best guess. Im going to add it to the poll.

EDIT: For some reason, people can't change their votes because I edited the poll. If ert or craig could help, that would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: Ertxiem on March 27, 2011, 03:11:34 PM
I just did it. I edited the poll and allowed votes to be changed.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: MikeW781 on March 27, 2011, 03:18:02 PM
I just did it. I edited the poll and allowed votes to be changed.
Excellent, thanks
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: ArtDrake on July 30, 2011, 10:10:24 PM
I'm sorry to necropost, but I was thinking about a certain idea:

Luca is a very sad ghost, seeing as her husband doesn't remember her, and is currently... widowed? (I'm not sure how well the term applies) Rajav would appear to be a bachelor ghost. Perhaps Luca could have a happy ending after all.
Title: Re: Who is this?
Post by: SmartyPants on August 04, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Luca is a very sad ghost, seeing as her husband doesn't remember her, and is currently... widowed? (I'm not sure how well the term applies) Rajav would appear to be a bachelor ghost. Perhaps Luca could have a happy ending after all.
That seems possible