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Started by Duskling, October 17, 2010, 12:47:54 AM

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The Holy namelesskitty

Hmmm, only kind of, but this argument truly is spam so don't reply.
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SmartyPants

I like the idea of a republic.  Two party system sucks though.  It sucks that if you vote for a third party, then you are throwing your vote away.

Steel Ersatz Man

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I don't kjnow about you, but I live in the UK and, if I was old enough to vote, I would have voted for labour to stay. But NOOOOOOOO! The people voted for a party thats on the verge of putting us in a double dip recession!  >:(
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Cypher

I think I'll remain silent on this one.

SmartyPants

I don't know much about UK politics, but I tend to agree with the Conservative Party.  As much as I love Tony Blair for always standing by the US in the fight for democracy and the war against terrorism, I tend to disagree with his party's stance on things.  The reason that the United States has been economically dominant over Europe for so long is because the US has had conservative economic policies, while Europe tends to overly tax the wealthy and have tons of costly social programs.  Ironically, many European governments (like UK's Conservative Party) are trying to move towards America's old conservative policies, while Obama is moving America towards socialist polices that prevented Europe from being able to compete against the US.


Quote from: Duckling on October 17, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Not paying taxes is very Amercian.
Nearly half of US house holds don't pay taxes, because the top 1% already pay for everything.  Some liberals argue that the rich still don't pay thier fair share.


Quote from: Duskling on October 17, 2010, 12:47:54 AMIf I were to pick a government type, it would be Communism, not the Leninism/Stalinism Communism with those dictators, but the theoretical, working Communism, i.e., everyone is equal, no social classes, nobody is out of anybody's league, etc.
I didn't know we were allowed to choose a fictional type of government.  If that is the case, then I think we should have a government where God rules through a bureaucracy run by angels.  The Soviet Union is a clear example of how communism doesn't work.  In a society where a doctor is equal to the guy who flips burgers, there won't be any doctors.
"nobody is out of anybody's league"? Do you want Communism, because some chick/dude rejected you?

ArtDrake

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I'm almost sure that Duskling didn't mean it like that.


Duskling

Quote from: im2smart4u on October 18, 2010, 05:36:41 PM
"nobody is out of anybody's league"? Do you want Communism, because some chick/dude rejected you?
Sir, that is not what I meant. I merely meant that there are no "elite" besides the government (who are necessary) so nobody can say, "HAHA!! I make more money than you, IN YOUR FACE!!!! :P :P :P :P" Plus, I stated that I support the theory of Communism, not the crazy Leninist-Stalinist factions, though it is interesting to learn about them, I must say.

SmartyPants

Your choice of a working communism is a fictitious choice of government.  It might work temporary, but it would require a Stalin type leader to run that government with an iron fist.

The Holy namelesskitty

Yeah, communism is difficult to see working properly.
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Duskling

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Quote from: im2smart4u on October 20, 2010, 03:11:03 PM
Your choice of a working communism is a fictitious choice of government.  It might work temporary, but it would require a Stalin type leader to run that government with an iron fist.
Alright, I'll give you points for that one, but you could've just said that before, however, fictitious or not, I support the theory.

cyso

The problem with Communism, and really just about any other form of government, is that things tend to not work the way people expect. Communism is okay as a theory, but some theories just don't work. Another problem is that pretty much everything can be screwed up somehow. I sound sort of pessimistic, but people don't make things that last forever. Even if they seem to, they often stray from what they started from. An example would be the US. I doubt any of the Founding Fathers pictured the US as it is now. They might not like the direction that the country is going in, or has gone in. It has changed a lot. The Founding Fathers where wise enough to not try to completely restrict the change, which is why the US Constitution has not collapsed entirely. Things change, often for the worse.
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bugfartboy

I agree with yogc. I just wish the US was back on it's Christain roots. We need it. They warned us that if we ever leaved God, we would crumble. What do you see? A crumbling nation? I do.

The Holy namelesskitty

no, I see a budding people, a new country will rise, and an old one will fall, such is life. People remain forever, in our hearts, our minds and in our bodies, we are a growing people, growing in ethnicity, acceptance and heritage, and thus our nation will endure. we bounced back from the thirties and we will bounce back from this.
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bugfartboy

Not the way I see it. Unless we turn ourselves around, expect it to get worse. We already owe more than we can pay back.