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Title: end of demo
Post by: mezzoforte on September 15, 2010, 11:16:48 PM
Is the demo now basically how it's going to be until the full-version comes out, or will there be something more after [spoiler]2 crypts and rescuing parents[/spoiler]
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: bugfartboy on September 16, 2010, 04:47:20 AM
I think Craig is hesitant to release more right now. He doesn't want to give too much from the full version away. I think KZs explanation for it was something like giving 99% of the game away and the player deciding the game got boring and thus not buying the full.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: SmartyPants on September 16, 2010, 09:01:43 AM
This all topic sounds like specuation with no evidence at all..  I don't think anything new has been put out, because Craig hasn't finished with the voice acting.

Also, I don't think missions related to Rubat Campgrounds or Lake Alto will ever be put into the Demo.  I base this on the fact that when you try to click on them on the map, it will say that it isn't included in the Demo.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: Xemadus Echina on September 16, 2010, 11:41:38 AM
well i can tell you one thing, if you are one of the faithful members of the telepath community there is a private web site that may or may not become a private beta area.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: SmartyPants on September 16, 2010, 11:57:13 AM
Since Craig didn't create the private website, then I am assuming that it won't be a private beta.  I think that site was created and maintained by some relatively new formers who want to feel special by excluding slightly newer users from being invited.  As special as some think the private website is, I don't think it has any real association with Sinister Design.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on September 16, 2010, 02:49:22 PM
um, Rainen made it, so I don't think that's it.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: bugfartboy on September 16, 2010, 04:08:23 PM
That is only a matter of perspective. Was he on the old forums?
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: Duskling on September 16, 2010, 04:53:19 PM
I believe rainen has been around for a while, he just doesn't have many legit posts, im2smart4u, why, if all of his posts counted, he would have over 700 posts, so please judge more carefully, or don't judge at all.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: Duskling on September 16, 2010, 11:33:44 PM
I consider you relatively new too.
Oh... I understand, it is because we weren't on the Old Forums, is that it? In that case, I acknowledge your opinion on our experience. However, I have but one question; what is your secret? How is it that you can be so brutally logical and right just about all the time. Oh no, wait, is it because ur2smart4me? :D
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: SmartyPants on September 17, 2010, 08:43:59 AM
I think the main reason the private site was created was because rainen  wanted to secure his place for testing the game out when the demo doesn't expand for the public.  That is likely wishful thinking.

FYI, I don't really think I am "Too smart for you".  I wanted to use numbers in my name and the name sounded so smug that I thought it was funny.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: bugfartboy on September 17, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
This is getting out of hand. And before you say ANYTHING, im2smart4u, I was on the old forums. Now please get back on topic.

Like I said. Craig is a little hesitant to update the demos any more right now.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: SmartyPants on September 17, 2010, 03:03:37 PM
I was on the old forums. Now please get back on topic.
Sure you were.  ::)

Is the demo now basically how it's going to be until the full-version comes out, or will there be something more after [spoiler]2 crypts and rescuing parents[/spoiler]
Do you have any evidence to prove your theory or is speculation?
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: Zackirus on September 18, 2010, 08:53:44 AM
Guys, it doesn't matter the number of posts you have, how long you have been here, or how much you think you know. It is your posts quality that counts in the end. I mean look at Barzul.

He is just speculating im2smart4u.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: ArtDrake on September 18, 2010, 09:32:37 AM
Speculation is not always a bad thing.

A) I don't think the google site is going to be affiliated with SD. I could be wrong.

B) I think that there are going to be one or two more missions, but basically, I think Craig only needed us to figure out what bugs there were in the engine, and some of the minigames, but now that most of the bugs are worked out, we don't need to be included as much in the rest of the process.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: CraigStern on September 18, 2010, 09:41:38 AM
It doesn't matter who's old and who isn't. What matters is who can contribute to the community in a respectful fashion.

As for the demo: I am, indeed, somewhat hesitant about giving away much more than I have already. I don't want people thinking like this (http://sinisterdesign.freepowerboards.com/viewtopic.php?p=32870#p32870) after I release the full game:

Quote from: rainen
and i for one find it strange that i was able to play all the way to league NINE before without pay and almost complete the game.  now if i wanna play for free i can only play to league THREE.  since i already have played most of the game and gotten almost all there is to get,  all i'm buying is the ability to replay the game and the last 2 leagues and 1 or 2 orbs. as well as the ending. not worth it.

I am, however, going to have a beta testing phase eventually. You'll know when it arrives.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: SmartyPants on September 18, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
Maybe to sove that issue, you could have people pre-pay.  Pre-pay would also help you get funds for completing the game and would allow people to test the game without skipping out on the bill.  The pre-payers could look for bugs before the complete edition is released.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: The Holy namelesskitty on September 19, 2010, 01:17:53 PM
that sounds good, but it does raise the issue of how many people will buy afterwards if you can pre pay?
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: SmartyPants on September 19, 2010, 02:48:48 PM
that sounds good, but it does raise the issue of how many people will buy afterwards if you can pre pay?
I don't see why it matters if someone pre-pays or regular pays.  Craig gets the same amount of money.
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: bugfartboy on September 19, 2010, 03:11:27 PM
So if they pre-pay, they get early on access to the game; but if they regular pay, they have to wait?
Title: Re: end of demo
Post by: Xemadus Echina on September 19, 2010, 04:29:28 PM
ok clearing things up:
1: I have been around since the old forums.  I was friends with ender and was distraught at the fact that he never showed up on the new forums :(
2: the time i joined was when TRPG2 was about in the middle of it's production.
3: the site i made was made out because i felt the need to give back more to the community then i have been in a way that i can do so in a helpful way.
4: the pre-pay idea has my support (especially since i have a credit card now ^_^) [spoiler]although i would still prefer the full game to be posted online in the private site :P[/spoiler]
5: money can buy you happiness! people who make about 75000 a year are statistically the happiest people! oh wait wrong comment....
6: hehe i totally forgot about that post ^_^ and yea that was a bit strange on how all that worked out Craig. 
7:[spoiler= answer to an old topic] in answer to your comment on where donations worked out. [spoiler= note to craig] [spoiler= reference to other site]1manstudio.net the owner, An, has only ever asked for donations and apparently they're either working well for him or else he has some other form of income.  he has 2 games out (well almost 2) and a third on the way with no hint of ever having to pay to play the game.  now granted you do get bonus content (even though it's not much at all)[/spoiler] maybe in the future do what you did with trpg2. have a special edition that you buy and get some bonus content then have a free version that you can still play to the end of the game. and im not sure if you do so already put put a donation button in corner of the window. or in credits section or in just the main page.[/spoiler] {jeez talk about some extreme topic necroing huh? XD[/spoiler]