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Who is the new character?

Dead Leader of the Black Rose
10 (50%)
Duvalier's Father
0 (0%)
Ghost Bandit
0 (0%)
Tomb Raider
0 (0%)
Fizooz
0 (0%)
Priest of Yawah
0 (0%)
Random Ghost
2 (10%)
Yawah
0 (0%)
Ghost Boss of Crypt 3
0 (0%)
Darime
0 (0%)
Rajav
8 (40%)

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Offline KZ

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2010, 04:04:01 PM »
I doubt it is Fife, as Fife was supposed to be a merchant who lived in a house infested by rodents- quite worse than the "storage shed" HQ these days- hence it's unlikely that such a "refined" individual would reside in such a house nor would a merchant likely to have such a finesse, methinks.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2010, 05:03:00 PM »
Mmm... we don't know if this spirit is found in Baz's basement...
Nevertheless, I agree that the spirit looks like being high class.
In my opinion, if the Order of the Black Rose is a well known and successful organization, I assume that they have a good money income. In that case, it is possible that the leaders may become wealthy enough to have a fa├žade life as one of the members of the high class in Ravinale.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2011, 08:13:20 AM »
Darime. Rahel describes him as being funny, warm, and things like that, not a very stern person who justs barks out commands. But I think he looks too sinister for Darime, but I think Darime's the best choice.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2011, 06:12:41 PM »
For some odd reason, he sort of reminds me of Ali the Incorrigible. Maybe it's the sinister grin.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2011, 08:39:31 AM »
I don't understand what got the people to think that he would be the dead leader of Black Rose.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2011, 09:09:27 AM »
The rose.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2011, 04:48:45 PM »
Probbaly the Dead Leader of the Order of the Black Rose.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »
Really? The guy who looks like a sophisticated romantic was the head of an order of ruthless assassins? Really?

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2011, 09:59:43 PM »
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?

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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2011, 10:29:33 PM »
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Clearly "changing personalities" in is not the style of the Black Rose.  Arman, Al'al, and Duvalier never used stealth or disguises to kill their enemies.  All the Black Rose assassins relied on their speed and skill with a knife to dispatch thier enemies.

How do you not see the huge stretch in logic?  Because the spirit holds a rose, he must be the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, since everyone knows that all assassins like to carry roses to identity themselves as assassins.  ::)

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2011, 11:36:05 PM »
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Clearly "changing personalities" in is not the style of the Black Rose.  Arman, Al'al, and Duvalier never used stealth or disguises to kill their enemies.  All the Black Rose assassins relied on their speed and skill with a knife to dispatch thier enemies.

How do you not see the huge stretch in logic?  Because the spirit holds a rose, he must be the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, since everyone knows that all assassins like to carry roses to identity themselves as assassins.  ::)
Hm. I second that. You said exactly what I wanted to say, im2smart4u. Being the dead leader of the Black rose just beacuse he's holding a rose is just....just... ridiculous!
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2011, 06:02:02 AM »
That being said, he must be a ghost bandit. :P I think he's Yawah. I see some sense in it.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2011, 12:24:47 PM »
That could be the point, assassins are supposed to pretend to be people they're not, even if it means changing their personalities, looks like the Black Rose leader could've actually convinced himself he was a sophisticated romantic, hmm?
Clearly "changing personalities" in is not the style of the Black Rose.  Arman, Al'al, and Duvalier never used stealth or disguises to kill their enemies.  All the Black Rose assassins relied on their speed and skill with a knife to dispatch thier enemies.

How do you not see the huge stretch in logic?  Because the spirit holds a rose, he must be the dead leader of the Order of the Black Rose, since everyone knows that all assassins like to carry roses to identity themselves as assassins.  ::)
Hm. I second that. You said exactly what I wanted to say, im2smart4u. Being the dead leader of the Black rose just beacuse he's holding a rose is just....just... ridiculous!
I was actually picturing it as a possibility because one would not expect the head of the order to look like a criminal. I was picturing a very wealthy man who employs assassins would have a sophisticated look about him, even though his assassins would undoubtably look like questionable figures. And yes, the rose is a big part of it, but it does make sense. Besides, why else would somebody be holding a rose in hand? The name of the Order is the only reference to any flower in the game.

As a PS- I don't agree with the idea; I just wanted to point out that it wasn't as silly as you two made it out to be.

Why is the world is everyone thinking that it is the dead leader of the Black Rose?  Is the ghost holding a knife or wearing a cloak?
I agree. The dead leader of the black rose makes no sense.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2011, 07:48:34 PM »
I was actually picturing it as a possibility because one would not expect the head of the order to look like a criminal. I was picturing a very wealthy man who employs assassins would have a sophisticated look about him, even though his assassins would undoubtably look like questionable figures. And yes, the rose is a big part of it, but it does make sense.
So, your reasoning is that the portrait looks so unlike an assassin leader that it must be the leader of the Order of the Black Rose? That is silly reasoning.

Cygnus doesn't look anything like a shadowling, so no one would expect him to be a shadowling. That means he must be a shadowling.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2011, 07:52:40 PM »
No, my reason was that while assassins have a rugged appearance, their employer might not.
Like, a mob boss looks like a business man, but his thugs look like thugs.
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