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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2010, 08:08:08 AM »
I don't like those attacks well the psp to health because you would never run out of health but the health to psp is okay.

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2010, 09:34:29 AM »
I don't know if the arbalest should have the multi-shot attack. I think it makes it too powerful.


I think spear men need more attacks. Maybe a longer ranged impale, or a "critical strike"?
Critical strike would be a more powerful version of melee, but would cost more.
The enemy uses psy power to strike accelerate their spear (not throw it) into the enemy.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2010, 09:41:27 AM »
Spearmen alreadyhave imaple (Psy Arena 2) it up to craig to add in anothr attack for them
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2010, 09:44:31 AM »
Spearmen only have three attacks. That might be okay for enemies, but I think your future teammate should have more attacks. Normal archers only have one or two attacks, but Rahel has four. Normal spearmen have only three attacks, but your future teammate will probably have more.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2010, 09:48:42 AM »
Maybe instead of adding a longer ranges attack maybe the spearmen grabs his spear like a staff and jabs at his sides

Spear Jab
Cost: 6
Range: 1

OOOOO
OXSXO
OOOOO

X= space effected S= Spearmen O= Spaces Unaffected

what do you think
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2010, 09:57:17 AM »
That would be nice. As of right now, spearmen can only attack enemies on a few squares.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2010, 11:38:06 AM »
I assume that in the Spear Jab, the Spearman is facing north (up).
I like that idea (and I remember something similar being discussed in the old forums).

Another attack talked about in the old forums was a diagonal attack (2 diagonals possible):
XO
OS
S - Spearman facing north
X - Affected space
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With 2 small Mandelbrot sets as the spots.

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2010, 12:51:35 PM »
Indeed, a similar idea was mentioned on the old forums. I think the diagonal one can be rather useful, especially in bottle-neck situations, and simply areas where there is little space. This will make a unit unique, since all other units go horizontal/vertical, rather than diagonal with their one-tile attacks.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2010, 12:54:18 PM »
No, Rahel accomplishes the same thing with Split shot, but this would be a great way to augment her abilities. Would this attack be stoppable by terrain? The spaces the rocks take up leave room for a diagonal attack.

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2010, 12:59:52 PM »
Split shot takes 2 or 3 tiles, not one, and it is a ranged attack, not melee.
I was thinking about the issue of this being a stoppable attack, and I think that the best way would be "no": an obstacle in front of a spearman shouldn't really prevent him from attacking an enemy on a free adjacent tile via a tile that's also, most likely, obstacle free.

OOO
EXO
OSO

O=empty
X=obstacle
E=enemy
S=spearman
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2010, 01:02:23 PM »
I agree with KZ. Its not as if the spearman lunges forward, stabs the enemy to the side, and jumps back. All he does is attack in a diagonal line. Would there be an attack for both directions, or would you be able to chose which side you attack?
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2010, 01:05:05 PM »
I think this attack can take up two attack spots, so that the player can choose which side to attack (I can see how Niven might be only able to throw the knife in one direction, using his one hand only, but I find it absolutely ridiculous that a spearman can do a diagonal jab only in one direction).
Oh yeah, let's have "Diagonal Jab" as the working name for this attack.
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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2010, 01:14:08 PM »
Piercing Throw- A powerful throw of a spear can stab through an enemy and hit the square behind your target.
Range: 2-3 squares
Damage: (1/2)Strength + (1/2)Psy Power + 2 + Piercing Throw Level
Cost: 9 PsP

000
0X0
0X0
000
0S0

0=uneffected space, X=attacked space, S=spearman

I already suggested a 4th attack for a spearman.

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2010, 01:17:13 PM »
As in TSoG you can have up to 8 attacks, I don't see any reason to not include the Diagonal Jab and the Piercing Throw a long with any other attacks.

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Re: New attacks for teammates
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2010, 01:23:31 PM »
We have three attacks so far for the spearmen:

Piercing Throw: A powerful throw of a spear can stab through an enemy and hit the square behind your target.
Range: 2-3 squares
Damage: (1/2)Strength + (1/2)Psy Power + 2 + Piercing Throw Level
Cost: 9 PsP

000
0X0
0X0
000
0S0

0=uneffected space, X=attacked space, S=spearman

Spear Jab: The Spearmen grips his spear like a staff and jabs it to the sides on him
Cost: 6
Range: 1

OOOOO
OXSXO
OOOOO

X= space effected S= Spearmen O= Spaces Unaffected

Diagonal thow
Cost: 4
Range 1

OXOXO
OOSOO
OOOOO

O=uneffected space, X=attacked space, S=spearman

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